Italian election

Discussion in 'world politics, current affairs and news' started by brogdale, Feb 25, 2013.

  1. Fedayn

    Fedayn Well-Known Member

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  2. Idris2002

    Idris2002 the liberation forces make movies of their own

    Listened to his podcast last night:

    /30/ Italy: Country of the Future? ft. David Broder

    Well worth a listen, even if the conclusions are depressing: the Lega (no longer "Nord") has hoovered up the old working class vote that used to go to the PCI. And the oscillation between desperate populists of the Berlusconi/Grillo type and utterly amoral technocrats who view ordinary people the way a scientist might view a rat in a maze is the wave of the future, and not just in Italy.
     
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  3. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    And for those who prefer to listen with their eyes:

    The Gross Coalition - David Broder

     
  4. Idris2002

    Idris2002 the liberation forces make movies of their own

    [​IMG]
     
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  5. petee

    petee i'm spartacus

    by that criterion, I'm with Potere al Popolo
     
  6. hipipol

    hipipol Peckham Wry

    The X Factor game show elements of modern "popular" - ie manipulated, democracy are properly displayed.
    There is almost no sensible option
    Good luck to Italy
    You'll need it
     
  7. copliker

    copliker ...

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  8. Dogsauce

    Dogsauce Lord of the Dance Settee

    Trump, Berlesconi, erdogan, Putin, Duterte, Sarkozy, Netanyahu. Like the worse kind of self-regarding hand-in-the-till cunt keeps winning. Democracy needs to take a good look at itself.
     
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  9. stethoscope

    stethoscope Well-Known Member

  10. Idris2002

    Idris2002 the liberation forces make movies of their own

  11. Idris2002

    Idris2002 the liberation forces make movies of their own

    Potere al Popolo don't seem to have been placed anywhere at all. 0.92% of the vote, if my reading of an Italian website is correct (and I don't speak Italian).
     
  12. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    Nudging just over 1.0%
    whilst Casa Pound is just under.
     
  13. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist specter haunting

    the goans opinion piece on the result recons the rise of populism threatens to kill liberal democracy (good) and its because the youngs don't remember hitler or the cold war.
     
  14. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

  15. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    You'll have noted that there was not a single reference or mention of any political project, action, policies or to any economic or material effect of the former in producing a very real very angry alienation from liberal capitalist democracy and the results of its structural motivations.

    (Guess where the writer was educated as well - it'll come as a real shock to you)
     
  16. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    Heh. Guess what sport they mention doing on linked in?
     
  17. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    It's interesting that Potere al Popolo and Casa Pound are getting such similar, tiny, %s.
     
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  18. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Push him off if you get the chance.
     
  19. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    Are we looking at the same writer :confused:
     
  20. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    I didn't look, i just assumed he was a climber. We're talking yascha mounk right?
     
  21. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    Nah. Stephanie Kirchgaessner. "Division I athlete: Rowing" at the George Washington University.
     
  22. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Ah, you're supposed to have been looking at this piece.
     
  23. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist specter haunting

    I was on about the mounk piece. He's cambridge then harvard and:
    Executive Director at the Tony Blair Institute for Global Change :/
     
  24. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    Ahhh.

    Two different pieces by two different elitely educated journos. What are the odds, eh?
     
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  25. stethoscope

    stethoscope Well-Known Member

  26. stethoscope

    stethoscope Well-Known Member

  27. FridgeMagnet

    FridgeMagnet Administrator

    Also the author of this marvellous peak-NYT piece: Opinion | How Liberals Can Reclaim Nationalism
     
  28. DotCommunist

    DotCommunist specter haunting



    getting as close as they can to it in an editorial:
     
  29. Idris2002

    Idris2002 the liberation forces make movies of their own

    Lovely stuff. Well done to all responsible for this one.

     
  30. teqniq

    teqniq DisMembered

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