Italian election

Discussion in 'world politics, current affairs and news' started by brogdale, Feb 25, 2013.

  1. brogdale

    brogdale Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism

    Exit polls show that Bankers win...again.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...ersani-poised-to-win-election-exit-polls.html


     
  2. contadino

    contadino Well-Known Member

    Huh? Bersani and Vendola are by no means austerity advocates.

    I'm not saying the banks haven't won - the markets love a bit of volatility - just that if PD & SEL end up with a workable majority, it may be better for the average Giuseppe. It does mean we may be able to breath a sigh of relief: Berlusconi might call it a day and sod off to his datcha, and Grillo's Tea Party will hopefully peter out/ditch Grillo by the time we head for the polls this time next year.
     
  3. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    ...and since when have the PdL and Lega Nord been "centre-right"?
     
  4. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    What about when supporting austerity as part of Monti's parliamentary coalition, voting for austerity ? Were they austerity advocates then?
     
  5. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Far -right?
     
  6. contadino

    contadino Well-Known Member

    All parties except SEL & LN agreed to support the Monti's government. That's what happens when the country's economy teeters on meltdown and bankers come to replace democracy. You'll find their signatures right there alongside Berlusconi's....
     
  7. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Yep, which is support for austerity. What's your point? That it isn't? It must be right?

    That otther people were pro-austerity too doesn't mean that one group who were weren't.
     
  8. contadino

    contadino Well-Known Member

    That they're not pro-austerity. In their interviews they've sounded like Hollande (before he was elected.)

    You can't claim that Berlusconi is anti-austerity, and Bersani is pro. They signed the same documents, and have spouted the same line throughout their campaigns.
     
  9. contadino

    contadino Well-Known Member

    ...and it's academic anyway. The exit polls contradict the OP
     
  10. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Who is claiming that though! If you're saying they both are then why would you say it's wrong to say that Bersani is?
     
  11. contadino

    contadino Well-Known Member

    I can't say it any simpler. Sorry.
     
  12. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    The BBC keeps calling them "centre-right" and Monti's lot as "centrists".
     
  13. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Left and right meaning if they scare 'traders' or not.
     
  14. Fedayn

    Fedayn Well-Known Member

    There's some interesting figures on this map
    Especially some of the drops in votes for the centre-right in areas they still top. The same for the centre-left too. Grillo's 5 star movement is certainly making massive in roads.
     
  15. articul8

    articul8 Dishonest sociopath

    Was Mario Tronti a PD candidate? :eek:
     
  16. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    For god sake, what on earth would surprise you about that? Have you missed the last 40 years of italian politics or something?
     
  17. articul8

    articul8 Dishonest sociopath

    hardly a remarkable journey at all?
     
  18. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    You've not read him have you? You just recognise him as 'a name'. OMG Negri was elected for the Radical Party!
     
  19. articul8

    articul8 Dishonest sociopath

    I've not read anything he's written in the last 30 years or more, no
     
  20. krtek a houby

    krtek a houby how's it going to end?

    A potentially interesting thread, invevitably spoilt by butcher's spoiling for a fight. Not everyone knows everything about Italian politics over the last 40 years. No wonder people are wary of politics when ruffians like you hector them at every opportunity.
     
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  21. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    You're 34 days early this year.
     
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  22. treelover

    treelover Well-Known Member

    The Grillo's have received 23% of the vote, given they say they won'T join any coalition and Beppe won't take his seat, what impact can this grouping have, they seem a very independent bunch and may rock the parliamentary vote..
     
  23. krtek a houby

    krtek a houby how's it going to end?

    And you're 24-7. With ridiculous, smug, preening predictability.
     
  24. chilango

    chilango *shrugs*

    Not really.

    Look at the mayor of Milan.
     
  25. butchersapron

    butchersapron blood on the walls

    Or the city of Bologna.
     
  26. TruXta

    TruXta tired

    This whole thread is bologna.
     
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  27. gosub

    gosub ~#

  28. where to

    where to Well-Known Member

    Has the Swp claimed Grillo a victory for the left yet?
     
  29. hipipol

    hipipol Peckham Wry

    The only good news out of this that the Comedian has beaten the Clown
     
  30. articul8

    articul8 Dishonest sociopath

    Socialist party has
     

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