Israel will bomb the Iranian nuclear sites.

[nino_savatte]

Nino: "Those that do not conform to the main demographic of a Facist entity are incarcerated or worse.": Riiiiight. Know of the "Red Shirts" in Mexico? Jews in Italy before the cementing of the Axis? I do not recall the Japanese engaging in a campaig of extermination agaist either Ainu OR Okinawans. The issue cannot be considered in mono. There is a myriad of Facist strains, as with any ideology over time, and making such a generalised assesment does not make sense.

"Rachamim';s definition of Facism is simplistic and over generalised.": Not at all. Ideologies ALL have a base, a foundation and strains are built ATOP these foundations. The "foundation" of Facism IS "ultra-patriotism."

"Italian national identity was largely constructed out of a (Classical) Roman model.": Noooo. Garibaldi did not aim for that. Mussolini DID.

Elbvows: "Spain and Italy get off lighter than Germany when talking about Facism.": Well, that IS true...

Garibaldi wasn't a fascist, dimwit.

You clearly missed my point about national identity and culture. I guess you're not as smart as you think you are.

 

[Bang to Rights]

It's back with more shitty smilies and more non-points that one can shake a stick at. Your comebacks aren't much better either.

I see that you're back again (from your latest banning), derailing threads and tallying up the points to your next one. Look at this post of yours I'm quoting ..... not even a hint of anything to do with Israel or Iran. What a pathetic fellow you are.

I'm looking forward to your next banning. It's like a holiday for all of us here at urban 75. Ooops! 3 more "shitty smiles"! It looks as though I'll never learn to please you.

BTW. I still don't think that Israel is preparing to give Iran a thrashing. What do you think about that subject. Hmmm?

 

[Bang to Rights]

A pity for you that you're neither.

Don't I bloody well know it.

 

[Bang to Rights]

Elbvows: "..... Italy get off lighter than Germany when talking about Facism.": Well, that IS true...

I wonder if that's because the Italians changed the colour of their shirts the very moment the first Amrerican set foot on Italian soil? Personally, I think they kept brown ones (neatly pressed) in their hip-pockets "just in case".

 

[editor]

I see that you're back again (from your latest banning), derailing threads and tallying up the points to your next one

Cut out the personal baiting please. Ta.

 

[ViolentPanda]

"Italian national identity was largely constructed out of a (Classical) Roman model.": Noooo. Garibaldi did not aim for that. Mussolini DID.

Garibaldi wouldn't have aimed for that, anyway. His ideal was one of unification through revolutionary means, whereas the Roman model suited Mussolini's reactionary authoritarianism perfectly. Garibaldi wasn't attempting to assert a unified national identity, but rather to form a unified state entity where regional differences and customs weren't suppressed. He didn't need to rely on a "national identity" in the way Mussolini did (for example to ameliorate the disruptive effects of internal migration, and to promote his plans for expansionism and colonialism).

 

[nino_savatte]

I see that you're back again (from your latest banning), derailing threads and tallying up the points to your next one. Look at this post of yours I'm quoting ..... not even a hint of anything to do with Israel or Iran. What a pathetic fellow you are.

I'm looking forward to your next banning. It's like a holiday for all of us here at urban 75. Ooops! 3 more "shitty smiles"! It looks as though I'll never learn to please you.

BTW. I still don't think that Israel is preparing to give Iran a thrashing. What do you think about that subject. Hmmm?

 

[teqniq]

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran will hit Tel Aviv, U.S. shipping in the Gulf and American interests around the world if it is attacked over its disputed nuclear activities, an aide to Iran's Supreme Leader was quoted as saying on Tuesday.

"The first bullet fired by America at Iran will be followed by Iran burning down its vital interests around the globe," the students news agency ISNA quoted Ali Shirazi as saying in a speech to Revolutionary Guards.

source

No surprises there then.

 

[frogwoman]

for fucks sake.

 

[frogwoman]

to be honest, if the yanks will attack anywhere next it will probably be Pakistan imo

 

[Bang to Rights]

Cut out the personal baiting please. Ta.

Fuck yourself.

 

[editor]

Fuck yourself.

One day ban coming right up.

 

[tangentlama]

source

No surprises there then.

Here is the the article from ISNA (Iranian Students' News Agency) that Reuters are quoting. I note that they do change the 'english' quote given by ISNA to their own version:

TEHRAN, July 08 (ISNA)-The first firing of the United States at Iran would put fire to its critical interests in the world, said Supreme leader’s envoy in Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) Ali Shirazi simultaneously with a military maneuver called Great Prophet III that shows IRGC missile and naval capabilities.

The Zionist regime is pushing the White House to get prepared for military attack against Iran and in case that they commit such foolishness, Tel Aviv and US fleet in the Persian Gulf would be the first targets to burst into flames receiving Iran’s crushing response, he said.

Saying enemies want to prevent Iran’s mounting power in the world he added Iran’s power would not be wiped out by threatening and terrorizing.

“Today the presence of Iran’s Revolutionary Guard Corps in various defensive areas has left the enemy disappointed and failed in reaching its objectives.”

End Item
http://www.isna.ir/ISNA/NewsView.aspx?ID=News-1161015&Lang=E

Here's Reuters quote:

TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran will hit Tel Aviv, U.S. shipping in the Gulf and American interests around the world if it is attacked over its disputed nuclear activities, an aide to Iran's Supreme Leader was quoted as saying on Tuesday.

"The first bullet fired by America at Iran will be followed by Iran burning down its vital interests around the globe," the students news agency ISNA quoted Ali Shirazi as saying in a speech to Revolutionary Guards.

The United States and its allies suspect Iran is trying to build nuclear bombs. Tehran says its program is peaceful.

AND

Shirazi's comments intensified a war of words that has raised fears of military confrontation and helped boost world oil prices to record highs in recent weeks.

"The Zionist regime is pressuring White House officials to attack Iran. If they commit such a stupidity, Tel Aviv and U.S. shipping in the Persian Gulf will be Iran's first targets and they will be burned," Shirazi was quoted as saying.

Shirazi, a mid-level cleric, is Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei's representative to the Revolutionary Guards.
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL0852323020080708?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=0

Here's another mention of the 'war of words'.

Ahmadinejad: Bush not to commit political suicide by attacking Iran
Service: Foreign Policy
1387/04/19
07-09-2008
13:04:26
News Code :8704-10921

ISNA - Tehran
Service: Foreign Policy

TEHRAN, July 09 (ISNA)-There are many rational thinkers in the US who would prevent their president from “committing a political suicide” by attacking Iran, said president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

Iran’s president was speaking in a press conference after the summit of the Eight Islamic Developing Countries in Malaysia.

Bush’s threats against Iran seem to be a “repeated ridiculous scenario” rather than a serious threat, he said.

"In the US, there are rational thinkers who will not allow Mr. Bush to commit a political suicide, besides; the economic, political and military situation will not allow him to attack Iran. He can’t change circumstances in his favor," he said.

Answering a question whether Iran intends to destroy Israel he called Zionists “a complex political invader group that would be destroyed without any need of Iran’s actions.”

“They accuse Iran of attacking them but that is a big lie since Iran’s nation has not attacked any other nation throughout the history.”

Elsewhere Ahmadinejad urged countries of G8 to demand the US and Britain destroy their nuclear weapons.

The United States and Britain are precursors of developing nuclear weapons, he said asking “how come is that the US can make nuclear bombs, use it and threat the world’s countries but other nations are note even allowed to use peaceful nuclear energy?”

“If they destroy their nuclear weapons, they would not need to be worried about nuclear threats in the world.”

Iran’s president also stated that Tehran’s stance regarding nuclear issue is explicit and based on law and justice adding Iran would not retreat from its rights.

Over the nuclear issue he recommended “it is the time for some big powers to gain the trust of Iran’s nation, cooperating with Iran is to their benefit.”

He also noted the D8 summit took a positive step but still not enough for potentials of its members.

End Item

Another thing I think about - did not Iran gain it's Nuclear technology to build these reactors in part from France? Why now is France demanding that Iran not use the nuclear technology sold to them to build nuclear power stations for energy?

 

[teqniq]

Here is the the article from ISNA (Iranian Students' News Agency) that Reuters are quoting. I note that they do change the 'english' quote given by ISNA to their own version:

Here's Reuters quote:

Here's another mention of the 'war of words'.

Nice one tangentlama.

Another thing I think about - did not Iran gain it's Nuclear technology to build these reactors in part from France? Why now is France demanding that Iran not use the nuclear technology sold to them to build nuclear power stations for energy?

A complete guess on my part; but is not Sarkozy very much pro U.S. and therefore more inclined to use any leverage that he thinks France may have in this matter?

 

[Bang to Rights]

One day ban coming right up.

You can knock me over with a feather. I expected a permanent ban for that one. You’re a much better man than I, that’s a fact. I was so sure that I’d been given the permanent toss that I haven’t logged on for over a week, just to put off the embarrassment and shame. Naturally, if I hadn't replied so spontaneously I wouldn't have made such a reply in the first place.

Thank you.