Israel must lose

[durruti02]

I thought only twenty or so had been killed by the Hamas rocket attacks?

What else are you including in the 'thousands' you refer to?

hey you people should learn how to use google! tons of links

http://globalavoidablemortality.blogspot.com/2006/05/post-1967-palestinian-israeli-deaths.html

seems about 1000 before 1948, 1000 from 1948 till 2000 and about another 1000 since then .. though one link says 5000 but whatever

( and before someone says more palestinians have died .. I KNOW!!!)

 

[ViolentPanda]

israel has been condemned at the UN many times ..

I wasn't talking about them being condemned. I said the UN, FOR THE FIRST TIME (I've put it in bold caps so you don't miss it again) has threatened to bring charges.
Do yourself a favour and actually fucking bother to read my post next time, eh?

in the recent history of the middle east this was not the worst of israels crimes .. nor the worst of it's conflicts ( arafat alleges Jordan massacred 25,000 palestinians in 'black september' ).. and there was not a major reaction in the west bank and jordan or lebanon

israel did what it wanted to .. olmert showed he is a tough guy .. they showed their determination ( intransigence) to the new US president .. they took out some key hamas players .. and terrorised gaza .. and it lost a minimal amount of soldiers and civilians ( remember thousends of israelis have died in suicide and rocket attacks )

I'm amazed and saddened at how often you totally fucking miss the point.

 

[durruti02]

I wasn't talking about them being condemned. I said the UN, FOR THE FIRST TIME (I've put it in bold caps so you don't miss it again) has threatened to bring charges.
Do yourself a favour and actually fucking bother to read my post next time, eh?


I'm amazed and saddened at how often you totally fucking miss the point.

which is, iyho?

p.s. ok first time .. big deal ..

 

[Bernie Gunther]

hey you people should learn how to use google! tons of links

http://globalavoidablemortality.blogspot.com/2006/05/post-1967-palestinian-israeli-deaths.html

seems about 1000 before 1948, 1000 from 1948 till 2000 and about another 1000 since then .. though one link says 5000 but whatever

( and before someone says more palestinians have died .. I KNOW!!!)

So basically you were talking about Israel's justification for attacking Hamas, but including in it all Israelis killed by Palestinians ever?

 

[tangentlama]

So basically you were talking about Israel's justification for attacking Hamas, but including in it all Israelis killed by Palestinians ever?

 

[chainsaw cat]

To use overwhelming military power to eradicate the palestinians as a political force ................ lol


Should Israel decide to use ALL its capabilities attacking Gaza would anyone like to estimate the number of casualities?

I heard on the radio a certain 'presenter' liken Israel's attack on Gaza to that of the Allies attack upon Dresden . If it wasn't so pathetic an analogy it would be laughable.

My apologies for coming late to this thread just to say this:


You turd.

 

[nino_savatte]

hey you people should learn how to use google! tons of links

http://globalavoidablemortality.blogspot.com/2006/05/post-1967-palestinian-israeli-deaths.html

seems about 1000 before 1948, 1000 from 1948 till 2000 and about another 1000 since then .. though one link says 5000 but whatever

( and before someone says more palestinians have died .. I KNOW!!!)

You patronising prick. Have you got an authoritative source rather than something you pinged on a Google search?

What you're doing here is trying to denigrate the continued suffering of the Palestinian people. Let me ask you a straight question (that you will avoid) who is being oppressed here? A) Israelis or B) Palestinians...or C) Do you care?

 

[pk]

Of course it is important to remember that it was Israel who broke the last ceasefire... not that they want you to know that...

CNN video on YouTube:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KntmpoRXFX4

 

[nino_savatte]

Of course it is important to remember that it was Israel who broke the last ceasefire... not that they want you to know that...

CNN video on YouTube:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KntmpoRXFX4

Don't tell that to durutti! It will confuse the poor dear.

 

[tangentlama]

Of course it is important to remember that it was Israel who broke the last ceasefire... not that they want you to know that...

CNN video on YouTube:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=KntmpoRXFX4

Regev stultifies himself as he's caught lying
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SILJxPTqjAM

 

[pk]

Regev stultifies himself as he's caught lying
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SILJxPTqjAM

You can hear the Saffy accent too... there are lots of South Africans in Israel, far too many to think that the nastier ones haven't been importing a few failed apartheid ideologies too...

That is not to say that a Saffy accent automatically means apartheid, it just probably means that in Israel.

All the Saffys I met out there - and that's certainly going to be more than a hundred, I wasn't counting - they were absolute racists bastards, with the noble exception of one or two.

 

[nino_savatte]

You can hear the Saffy accent too... there are lots of South Africans in Israel, far too many to think that the nastier ones haven't been importing a few failed apartheid ideologies too...

That is not to say that a Saffy accent automatically means apartheid, it just probably means that in Israel.

All the Saffys I met out there - and that's certainly going to be more than a hundred, I wasn't counting - they were absolute racists bastards, with the noble exception of one or two.

Regev is an Aussie.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Regev

 

[tangentlama]

You can hear the Saffy accent too... there are lots of South Africans in Israel, far too many to think that the nastier ones haven't been importing a few failed apartheid ideologies too...

That is not to say that a Saffy accent automatically means apartheid, it just probably means that in Israel.

All the Saffys I met out there - and that's certainly going to be more than a hundred, I wasn't counting - they were absolute racists bastards, with the noble exception of one or two.

Regev is Australian. Listen again.

 

[pk]

yeah, you're right... *sheepish mode*

point still stands though...

 

[durruti02]

I think the point is, that by establishing a properly left-wing system here with the working class making their own decisions, it would create a utopian paradise, and thus prove irresistibly attractive to the populations of other countries, and thus spread. At that point the Israelis would refuse to carry out the genocidal war aims of the IDF and tell their bosses they can stuff their wars and their neo-liberal offensive and instead reach out to their class brothers and sisters among the Palestinians.

Although a fantastic idea, I'm afraid my view is that in reality, this belongs in the realms of .. [the far away the unacheivable and the irrelevent ]

fair point but this war has been going on for 60 ( or many more decades depending on your start point )

the current tactics are NOT working

 

[durruti02]

So basically you were talking about Israel's justification for attacking Hamas, but including in it all Israelis killed by Palestinians ever?

thats how israelis think ..

 

[DexterTCN]

hey you people should learn how to use google! tons of links[/url]

Can you tell me your search parameters?

 

[durruti02]

Can you tell me your search parameters?

sorry i don't understand your question

 

[DexterTCN]

sorry i don't understand your question

What words were your searched based on.