Israel: How do they get away with it?

[ZAMB]

My point was what US residents are being offered: BBC News 24 relays ABC news a couple of times during the evening/night. And it makes the BBC look like a paragon (a good reason for doing it). Sky relays CBS, which is if anything worse.

I see your point.
You can get C4 and ITV online, but I guess the average American wouldn't think of looking.

 

[detective-boy]

... but I guess the average American wouldn't think of looking.

Not entirely sure you needed the last two words in that sentence ...

 

[nino_savatte]

Oh shit.

ABC News on BBC News24 now - portraying it all as Israel -vs- Iran.

3 seconds on the Lebanese farmers killed loading peaches... nothing else about Lebanon itself.

ABC World News is pretty poor fare. They have also described the conflict as "Israel v Lebanon". What also irritates me is the way they use "human interest" stories from Israel (Kiryat Shmona) to put a human face on things, while the Lebanese are largely anonymous. Though the other day, one of their reporters managed to find a former auto worker from Michigan. To the US news media, Hezbollah and Lebanon are the same thing.

If you want to see worse, have a look at NBC Nightly News.

 

[denniseagle]

The quote asks for ideas, dennis, it's not advertising history classes.

Inviting who into WW2??

I'll ask again just to confirm who it is you are talking about.

It's not a difficult question is it?

 

[TAE]

I see your point.
You can get C4 and ITV online, but I guess the average American wouldn't think of looking.

On the other hand CNN international often runs reports made by ITN.

 

[newharper]

A flawed,but interesting potted history of Hezbollah, and why D.C. greenlighted the attack.

Unlike the major Palestinian Islamist groups, Hamas and Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah forces haven't killed any Israeli civilians for more than a decade. Indeed, a 2002 Congressional Research Service report noted, in its analysis of Hezbollah, that “no major terrorist attacks have been attributed to it since 1994.” The most recent State Department report on international terrorism also fails to note any acts of terrorism by Hezbollah since that time except for unsubstantiated claims that a Hezbollah member was a participant in a June 1996 attack on the U.S. Air Force dormitory at Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia.

Therefore, a second reason for the U.S. government's disproportionate hostility toward Hezbollah may be to convince Americans that radical Islamist groups with a nationalist base will not stop attacking even after troop withdrawal. The Bush administration has insisted that the United States must destroy the terrorists in Iraq or they will attack the United States

This, of course, is not what the Bush administration or Congressional leaders want people to think, however, since it would make it far more difficult to defend the wars in Iraq, Palestine, and Lebanon. Therefore, it is politically important to convince Americans that Hezbollah is a terrorist group engaged in “continuous terrorist attacks” that constitute an ongoing threat to the national security interests of the United States and its allies.

The tragedy is how easily the mainstream media and the American public are willing to believe these simplistic misinterpretations of the complex Lebanese political situation, and how easily the war on terrorism can be manipulated to justify a U.S.-backed offensive against a small democratic country's civilian infrastructure.

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0805-26.htm

 

[nino_savatte]

I see your point.
You can get C4 and ITV online, but I guess the average American wouldn't think of looking.

Many Americans like their news and information to be prepackaged in sound bite form and it must correspond to the traditionaly binary arrangements of good/evil; light/dark and so on.

 

[ZAMB]

I just got this on the 'tikkun' e-mail newsletter from Rabbi Michael Lerner

While the secular leaders of Kadima push on for more war, the ultra-orthodox Degel HaTorah party called for an immediate cease fire and negotiations, on the grounds of saving Jewish lives. Oblivious to its own racism (nothing in the Bible or Talmud frees Jews from responsibiity for saving non-Jewish lives as well, since the Torah is explicit that all human beings are created in God's image and the Talmud says that the reason why the Torah starts with the story of Creation and Adam and Eve is precisely to show that all people come from the same source and hence that no group has the right to claim that it comes from a higher origin than anyone else), Degel HaTorah nevertheless became the first non-Arab party in the Knesset to unequivocally call for an end to hostilities.

 

[Falcon]

The fact that the creation of Israel entailed a moral crime against the Palestinian people was well understood by Israel’s leaders. As Ben Gurion told Nahum Goldmann, president of the World Jewish Congress, “If I were an Arab leader I would never make terms with Israel. That is natural: we have taken their country. We come from Israel, but two thousand years ago, and what is that to them? There has been anti Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They only see one thing: we have come here and stolen their country. Why should they accept that?”

Mearsheimer, Walt "The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy", 2006 (PDF)

 

[moono]

Here's an html link to an edited version of that, Falcon.
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html

Ben Gurion was responsible for setting the means by which the Zionists removed Palestinians- 'brutal compulsion'.

Ben-Gurion was a consummate strategist and he understood that it would be unwise for the Zionists to talk openly about the need for ‘brutal compulsion’. We quote a memorandum Ben-Gurion wrote prior to the Extraordinary Zionist Conference at the Biltmore Hotel in New York in May 1942. He wrote that ‘it is impossible to imagine general evacuation’ of the Arab population of Palestine ‘without compulsion, and brutal compulsion’.

http://www.irmep.org/mw_letter.htm

 

[nino_savatte]

My point was what US residents are being offered: BBC News 24 relays ABC news a couple of times during the evening/night. And it makes the BBC look like a paragon (a good reason for doing it). Sky relays CBS, which is if anything worse.

You should see NBC Nightly News on the CNBC channel: it's news lite for people with short attention spans.

Here's an interesting nugget: CBS is constantly the focus of right wing allegations of 'bias', yet it is mostly owned by News Corp iirc.

 

[mod]

2 years after I posted this and we are still getting the same bolloxs.