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Islam4UK and the March for Sharia Oct 31st
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except 1L4A is for the UK .. it is nothing to do with Iran .. IP has not bothered to look at their website
if it was random, without thought mate .. where i am there are many fundies of diff religions and i would almost always defend them with NO preconditions form random assault, and yet I and most other people hate many parts of their various religions.
HOWEVER, and as you say it is complicated
IF a xtian, or jewish, rasta or muslim fundy is on a soapbox saying gays should go to hell or be beheaded and a young gay man or woman starts attacking them what would YOU do?? and yes it would again probabaly depend .. is the person some old nutter or part of a militant aggressive grouping like S4UK so there are no easy answers and we are making it up as we go along at the minute but it is good we are doing so
invisibleplanet
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invisibleplanet
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is that what happened?
Did SWP/UAF defend S4UK on the Al Quds march?
EDL mingled with Iranian counter-demonstrators on that day (because the police put them in the same contained area at Piccadilly - twice.
The 'Stop the BNP' demo was held away from the Al Quds march and the Iranian/EDL counter-protestors, and couldn't be seen to be defending the Al Quds march in any way - it's focus was on the BNP elements of EDL.
The Al Quds march was then marched past the EDL/Iranian counter-protestors. The EDL shouted 'No Sharia' and 'Muslim bombers off our streets' whilst waving flags of Israel, England and the Union Jack. The Iranian Democrat counter-protestors shook their fists, waved their flags and posters. After the march had passed on it's way to Waterloo Place, the EDL were escorted down Shaftesbury Avenue, away from the Al Quds march assembly point.
So where did the UAF defend the Al Quds march? They never saw either the march, or the EDL.
They were there to protest against the BNP elements of EDL, and were not defending the Al Quds march.
Bring proof to the table for your assertion, and a link to Harry's Place opinion will not suffice
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Defend?
Physical confrontation is hardly their style, and anyway, they were there to barrack the rightists, not to "defend" anyone. I strongly suspect that they'd be unable to "defend" even themselves against a class full of junior-school kids, let alone defend an entire march.
You should n't believe everything you read from "that" website, durutti, or we'll have to start calling you Zachor.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
That's where people look at a portrait of Alex Callinicos and start crying.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
is that what happened?
Did SWP/UAF defend S4UK on the Al Quds march?
EDL mingled with Iranian counter-demonstrators on that day (because the police put them in the same contained area at Piccadilly - twice.
The 'Stop the BNP' demo was held away from the Al Quds march and the Iranian/EDL counter-protestors, and couldn't be seen to be defending the Al Quds march in any way - it's focus was on the BNP elements of EDL.
The Al Quds march was then marched past the EDL/Iranian counter-protestors. The EDL shouted 'No Sharia' and 'Muslim bombers off our streets' whilst waving flags of Israel, England and the Union Jack. The Iranian Democrat counter-protestors shook their fists, waved their flags and posters. After the march had passed on it's way to Waterloo Place, the EDL were escorted down Shaftesbury Avenue, away from the Al Quds march assembly point.
So where did the UAF defend the Al Quds march? They never saw either the march, or the EDL.
They were there to protest against the BNP elements of EDL, and were not defending the Al Quds march.
Bring proof to the table for your assertion, and a link to Harry's Place opinion will not suffice
Ah, you noticed that the only place where such a claim has been made about UAF "defending" (a laughable concept in itself) was "that" website too, eh?
invisibleplanet
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Defend?
Physical confrontation is hardly their style, and anyway, they were there to barrack the rightists, not to "defend" anyone. I strongly suspect that they'd be unable to "defend" even themselves against a class full of junior-school kids, let alone defend an entire march.
You should n't believe everything you read from "that" website, durutti, or we'll have to start calling you Zachor.
no that was from them (SWP) VP not the EDL or other muppets .. they said they were not on the march to neccessarilly support it but to defend it from attack by EDL etc .. and yes of course they could not defend jack shite as you so rightly say
Ah, you noticed that the only place where such a claim has been made about UAF "defending" (a laughable concept in itself) was "that" website too, eh?
that website being er Socialist Worker? where they claim to have held back the EDL?? http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=19007 yes of course laughable
http://www. englishdefenceleague.org/why-are-the-edl-not-counter-demonstrating-against-islam4uk.html
<edit - please break links, we don't want any board wars and that - FM>
<edit - please break links, we don't want any board wars and that - FM>
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=158649383516&ref=mf
http://www.bmsd.org.uk/
http://www.seculardemocracy.org/ British Mulsims for Secular Democracy have called a demo against Choudary at 1pm at Piccadilly Circus
http://www.bmsd.org.uk/
http://www.seculardemocracy.org/ British Mulsims for Secular Democracy have called a demo against Choudary at 1pm at Piccadilly Circus
Ibn Khaldoun
the present is dead, long live the future . . .
i wish they'd both collide and disappear
ericjarvis
give a feck for the feckless
I thought the option most people were choosing was the point and giggle option.
so have http://www.muslims4uk.org.uk/ - was advertised on islamophobia watch so possivly linked to them. they claim they are against Al Muj, EDL and the Daily Express
that actually is probably the correct response
can't argue with that!.. they claim they are against Al Muj, EDL and the Daily Express
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