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Islam4UK and the March for Sharia Oct 31st

So will the counter demonstrations by the left be down in London or in Leeds? Seriously tho, is there even any plan to counter this demo?
 
I will be countering the demo by attending my nephew's Halloween party.
Other people will be countering the demo by going about their business, seeing their families, attending their places of worship, amsuing themselves, shopping, etc etc thus demonstrating their total lack of interest in Anjem Choudary and his increasingly pathetic attempts to garner attention for his uber-out-there-fringe fantasies.

It is about as pointless to demonstrate against him as it is to demonstrate against the Sinner or Winner evangelical loony as unrepresentative of Christians/white people/whatever.

Stop playing into the extremists' hands, on both sides.
 
I will be countering the demo by attending my nephew's Halloween party.
Other people will be countering the demo by going about their business, seeing their families, attending their places of worship, amsuing themselves, shopping, etc etc thus demonstrating their total lack of interest in Anjem Choudary and his increasingly pathetic attempts to garner attention for his uber-out-there-fringe fantasies.

It is about as pointless to demonstrate against him as it is to demonstrate against the Sinner or Winner evangelical loony as unrepresentative of Christians/white people/whatever.
The EDL don't represent the views of white people either, yet they manage to attract fairly large counter demonstrations to counter their "uber-out-there-fringe fantasies"...

Stop playing into the extremists' hands, on both sides.
This demonstration will play right into the hands of the EDL/BNP. I think the media will ham this protest up and give it a lot of, if disproportionate, attention. I think the media and the public will also compare the two equally abhorrent demonstrations that day and ask why one was acceptable enough to escape any protests from the left and one wasn't...

This demo will be damaging to the left, and damaging to community relations in this country, there are ways of limiting both of these outcomes...
 
edl are a bunch of thugs looking for a fight.
islam4uk bunch of irritating nutjobs known to mi5 and unlikley to indugle in fisticuffs.

although I bet a lot of edls pointy little heads would explode if they turned up at a mosque and were invited in for a curry:D
evil brown skinned terrorists vs free food :hmm:
 
It all sounds eminently ignorable. I suppose you could probably get some amusing photos of them in Trafalgar square, "gather(ing) even more support from tourists and members of the public".
 
durutti why are you posting up information about a totally irrelevant group and a totally irrelevant group? For what reasons?

Should I start posting up announcements from the Monster Raving Loony Party and Zebras against Zog?
 
durutti why are you posting up information about a totally irrelevant group and a totally irrelevant group? For what reasons?

Should I start posting up announcements from the Monster Raving Loony Party and Zebras against Zog?

Maybe he thinks EDL are justified, and anyway - they're a working class alternative to the UAF/SWP/Islamist-loving/Commies/Vast-Left-Wing-Conspiracy-Factory and why shouldn't he agree with their slagging off of the UAF/SWP/Islamist-loving/Commies/Vast-Left-Wing-Conspiracy-Factory AND their opposition to Islamist/Political Islamist/Radical-Extremist-Terrorist/Sharia-Loving/Vast-Muslim-Conspiracy-Baby-Factory.
 
Gotta love how Al-Muhajiroun are "irrelevant" one minute then the next they're known to Mi5!

So what are they? Irrelevant or a threat to this country? Can't be both, can they?
 
One man with a few guns might be known to MI5 and a threat.

That doesn't mean he is of significance to wider society. The same with this bunch. No-one takes them seriously.
 
The EDL don't represent the views of white people either, yet they manage to attract fairly large counter demonstrations to counter their "uber-out-there-fringe fantasies"...

This is only a testament to the stupidity of the UAF/SWP, or perhaps their desperation to find a reason to exist.
 
Haven't got a clue but if they are that is something that needs to be dealt with. Doesn't mean they have any significance in wider society.

David Copeland needed to be dealt with, doesn't mean he represented anyone.
 
Gotta love how Al-Muhajiroun are "irrelevant" one minute then the next they're known to Mi5!

So what are they? Irrelevant or a threat to this country? Can't be both, can they?

I could write you an essay on the long, long history between M15 and al-Muhajiroun but right now I have dinner to cook.
 
durutti why are you posting up information about a totally irrelevant group and a totally irrelevant group? For what reasons?

Should I start posting up announcements from the Monster Raving Loony Party and Zebras against Zog?

because i am clearly ( you choose )

1) anjem choudary
2) trevor kelway/tommy robinson/leisha brooks
3) nick griffin
4) jonathan evans
 
Just answer the question. Why are you posting this pointless stuff up?
pointless? lol .. it's all over the papers .. 1000 nazis or naive kids or whoever march against choudary in manchester and newsnight last night gave it a good 15 mins .. if you think all this is irrelevent i think you are very wrong .. it is very dangerous from both EDL and from I4UK .. besides whats it to you? why does it offend you?
 
EDL are a lot more of a concern than Al Muj/I4UK as al-Muj are now.

They haven't been completely infiltrated and busted open for starters. In fact, I don't think they have been infiltrated at all much, apart from the old hoolie/far right intel, which is mostly local police-based.

Having said that it should be much easier to crack them, as undercover officers are more likely to be white.

So give it six months.
 
EDL are a lot more of a concern than Al Muj/I4UK as al-Muj are now.
In what way do you consider the EDL a concern? They don't represent anyone according to most people here and they've no chance of taking over the country (I don't even think gaining political power is even an aim of theirs, unlike the BNP, for example)

The only concern I can think of is the damage they might do to community relations, but then if that is the concern then there's no way anyone could argue that al-Muhajiroun don't pose exactly the same threat (they are, after all, the flip sides of the same coin)
 
pointless? lol .. it's all over the papers .. 1000 nazis or naive kids or whoever march against choudary in manchester and newsnight last night gave it a good 15 mins .. if you think all this is irrelevent i think you are very wrong .. it is very dangerous from both EDL and from I4UK .. besides whats it to you? why does it offend you?

No I'm saying this demo is pointless and represents no-one. How many people will be on it? 20, 30?

It doesn't offend me but what are you hoping to achieve by publicising this demo on U75? What do you think should be done about it?
 
In what way do you consider the EDL a concern? They don't represent anyone according to most people here and they've no chance of taking over the country (I don't even think gaining political power is even an aim of theirs, unlike the BNP, for example)

The only concern I can think of is the damage they might do to community relations, but then if that is the concern then there's no way anyone could argue that al-Muhajiroun don't pose exactly the same threat (they are, after all, the flip sides of the same coin)

I have explained this already.
 
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