jeff_leigh
What happened to Dubversion ?
Citizen66 said:The OP is just trying to instigate Muslim bashing
Explain
Islam shows it's Tolerant side
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jeff_leigh
What happened to Dubversion ?
Citizen66 said:I was just trying to get you to bite but failed miserably
oh right very slow this sunday morning
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Dhimmi said:
Ah. convenient ignorance.
Well done.
Your convenient ignorance doesn't, however, change the fact that throughout the former Soviet Union the criminal justice systems still approximate the Soviet model rather than a "western" one.
Azerbaijan has a really cool tourism advert which shows the country in a very positive light. This court judgment, if reported correctly, completely undermines that charm offensive. It's also a bit odd, since that advert shows a woman in a swimsuit.jeff_leigh said:
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
MC5 said:Not 'funny' at all you moron.
So, this would appear to be an anti-Muslim killing?
I see the Mail's journalistic standards are, as usual, low.
The Yezidi are not a "Kurdish minority group", they're a minority group throughout the Middle East and parts of Central Asia. Some of the happen to reside in Northern Iraq.
Divisive Cotton
Now I just have my toy soldiers
stickbat said:
That's horrendous
Although I've discovered a new religion
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/li...ews.html?in_article_id=452288&in_page_id=1811
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Divisive Cotton said:
According to an Israeli poster on these boards the Yaz'd are supposedly "devil-worshippers".
It's sad how willing people are to accuse people who don't share their world-view of "evil", isn't it?
MC5 said:
Honour killings have at their core nothing to see with religion, but in cases like this religion is intertwined with and hence inserted to ancient tribal and honour custom (by which, as always in patriarchal societies, women are the first victims).
The Ezidi (often wrongly called Yezidi) is one of the 3 religions of the Cult of the Angels, which is the religion of 25-30% of the Kurds.
The true origin of the Ezidi religion is not clear but modern theories strongly suggest it is of pre-Islamic and Persian origin.
Todays followers describe themselves as monotheïsts (with God as the First Causer) but in particular the Ezidi view on Satan (of which exists two versions) is the direct opposite of Christian and Muslim views. For this reason they were pictured -wrongly- as devil worshippers and often persecuted. It is described that in the 15the century (AD) the Ezidi religion was powerful, its followers able to convert other Kurds and up to 7 of the 30 Kurdish tribal federations were fully Ezidi at the end of the century.
In the 17 the century the Ottomans had several plans to convert them to Islam and hundreds of thousands of Ezidi were displaced to Caucasia, where they are still today.
I have no reliable figures on the amount of Ezidi living in Iraq. Probably a few hundred thousands.
salaam.
Islamic state is a country with Islam as the only state religion and has influence of Islam in the constitution and other laws. Not so in Azerbeidjan.Dhimmi said:That's covenient apologism. Hopefully the same applies in non-islamic states.
Aldebaran, thanks. Very interesting posts.
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
N_igma said:
You what? I see no "Christian bashing" in the media but I see constant "Look how wicked those Muslims are" stories in the press.
Perhaps it is you who has been living uner a rock, with his brain bashed out for the last 5 years.
Luther Blissett
Nomadologist
ViolentPanda said:
Yes, they're an ancient indiginous people, with a wide-ranging territory stretching from syria, through iraq, iran, what's left of armenia, and azerbaijan
ViolentPanda said:According to an Israeli poster on these boards the Yaz'd are supposedly "devil-worshippers".
It's sad how willing people are to accuse people who don't share their world-view of "evil", isn't it?
Yes, even sadder is that as a Hebrew speaker, he really ought to understand the significance since it's a virtually unchanged semitic/language. 'Melekh Taus' (Yazd) MLK=King/Ruler/, Tww=Sign/Mark.
And then there is the question of cross-national boundary rights for a people whose territories stretch across modern nation states and their treatment by each national majority across their territories. For examples of how it might work, we could look at rights (and past wrongs, in order to learn from those mistakes) granted to the Sami/Saami/Sampi (Laplanders) of Norway/Sweden/Finland/Russia.
Tom A
Goat among sheep
Apols if I am repeating what has already been said, but I saw the news about the Kurdish woman being stoned to death in the Independent, basically her Ezidi family got pissed off that she fell in love with a Muslim and subsequently converted to Islam, so they and the rest of the villiage community decided to murder her for this "outrage".
However, the Independent also stated that in retalilation a few days later Sunni Muslim mililtiamen went and hijacked a bus full of Ezidi and Christian workers, told the Christians to get off, drove the bus to eastern Mosul and lined the Ezidi against the wall and shot them.
It is all very sad, and it is probably nothing to do the religions themselves and everything to do with so called "cutural traditions" with predate Islam.
However, the Independent also stated that in retalilation a few days later Sunni Muslim mililtiamen went and hijacked a bus full of Ezidi and Christian workers, told the Christians to get off, drove the bus to eastern Mosul and lined the Ezidi against the wall and shot them.
It is all very sad, and it is probably nothing to do the religions themselves and everything to do with so called "cutural traditions" with predate Islam.
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