DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I don't understand why the rest of our united kingdom don't back england. It seems churlish of them
Is this World Cup the least hyped-up on the street?
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hiraethified
Yeah! Why don't they all just love England?! What's the matter with them?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
we've only ever been such good neighbours and generous too
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
the beeb is definitely winning that one, if we base it on the shininess of foreheads
AverageJoe
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Its down to Roy Hodgson. As England manager most people think that he just runs the team, but he will have a team behind him who teach the players how to handle the media.
Roys first job was to get this team to neuter the press. Telling them, we dont want articles and bulletins on how we are going to win. That only puts pressure on the players and raises the hopes of a nation. Journalists at this WC have seen White Boards in the training rooms that have bullet points that the players are told to remember, including "We're a team", "We respect the opposition but we are here to do a job", "Everyone is ready, whether we are picked to play or on the bench". Withness the most jingoistic newspaper out the, The Sun, with their hashtag of #dousproud. No hype, no expectation, no promises - Roy has successfully managed to neuter the media and have them present the team as one that will do their best, but there are no promises.
As such, the expecations are lower, and without the press pumping memories of '66 in our heads we've become more muted too.
Roy is a genius.
Roys first job was to get this team to neuter the press. Telling them, we dont want articles and bulletins on how we are going to win. That only puts pressure on the players and raises the hopes of a nation. Journalists at this WC have seen White Boards in the training rooms that have bullet points that the players are told to remember, including "We're a team", "We respect the opposition but we are here to do a job", "Everyone is ready, whether we are picked to play or on the bench". Withness the most jingoistic newspaper out the, The Sun, with their hashtag of #dousproud. No hype, no expectation, no promises - Roy has successfully managed to neuter the media and have them present the team as one that will do their best, but there are no promises.
As such, the expecations are lower, and without the press pumping memories of '66 in our heads we've become more muted too.
Roy is a genius.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
dread, I can see shearers package and now cannot unsee it
Lo Siento.
Second As Farce
That and also it's quite some time since England have had produced a tournament performance that offered much promise for the next one. I mean 2012 we played each game like a Ryman League team in a 3rd Round FA Cup tie, 2010 we were totally abysmal and rightfully dumped out by the first good team we faced, 2008 didn't qualify. You have to go back to 2006 for a team that put in a decent performance and reasonably offered hope of being competitive in the final stages.
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
8ball
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DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
No shortage of flags in some parts of Bristol:
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
did we ever get round to mounting gareth southgates head on a spike before traitors gate
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
They really seem to be scraping the barrel for the cast of The Expendables 3 :-/
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Nope, same as mine. The delusional flag-wavers have just been the ones to shout the loudest, aided by the shit-stirring media (who aren't exactly known for their balanced and accurate reporting...), but for most tournaments I've watched, particularly since 2006 as has been said, most England supporters I've spoken to have gone into a tournament just hoping we put on a decent showing, and have no expectation of us winning the thing or getting much further than the Q/Fs.
There is a certain section who like to portray every England fan as the stereotypical lager lout who thinks football exists only in England, seemingly because they don't like England very much. But we'll take it. Because we can.
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Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
That's how it was in 2008, at least. Generally started a few hours before, but no sooner than the evening before
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
(((natural light)))
That's how it was in 2008, at least. Generally started a few hours before, but no sooner than the evening before
Does not leave too much time for wild speculation, betting tips and heated debate pre game?
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
That's what the general threads are for. You have general threads to chat on in between matches, match threads to discuss matches in the build-up, during the match and post-match.
General threads are the newspapers, match threads are the live coverage.
That's what the general threads are for. You have general threads to chat on in between matches, match threads to discuss matches in the build-up, during the match and post-match.
General threads are the newspapers, match threads are the live coverage.
Shall we start the Brazil game thread now?
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Why are you asking me? Do I look like some kind of Thread Police, eh sonny?
(yeah, someone probably should
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Voley
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Badgers said:
friedaweed is yer man for this. Last time round he did the honours by helpfully previewing each match with a visual depiction encapsulating everything each country represents. They were complex, vivid works that cut to the core of the very idea of cultural identity. For example, a sausage vs a beret would signify Germany vs France.
I do hope he'll do the honours again this time round.
