Is this photo photoshopped?

[mrsfran]

I say yes. Spymaster says no. I contend that even with the water being in front of the plane, you'd have to bend light to get it to reflect the writing on the top of the plane.

What do you think?

 

[spanglechick]

plane takes off

 

[weltweit]

Yes it has been photoshopped.

Why? because the image on the water should not be a mirror image of what is above it, a view of the plane from the vantage point of the reflection (i.e. down) would show a lot more of the underside of things like wings and things.

 

[Crispy]

If you look at the trailing edge of the wing where it covers up the windows, you'll see that it covers them in slightly different amounts in the real and reflected planes. therefore not photoshopped.

If you're far enough away from an object reflected in a flat plane, then the difference in viewing angle is negligible - think about the ratio of eye elevation to target distance.

 

[Leafster]

@ missfran - Not necessarily

 

[kyser_soze]

Isn't there some kind of check you can do to see if an image has been pshopped if you have it as a file?

 

[xes]

angle of refraction looks ok to me

 

[gabi]

Definitely

 

[xes]

Isn't there some kind of check you can do to see if an image has been pshopped if you have it as a file?

if you have the oringional image then yes, but this is probably rehosted and then posted online, so i doubt it.

 

[quimcunx]

plane takes off

This thread might go on as long...

 

[FunkyUK]

meta data says Adobe photoshop cs macintosh

 

[lizzieloo]

Yes it has been photoshopped.

Why? because the image on the water should not be a mirror image of what is above it, a view of the plane from the vantage point of the reflection (i.e. down) would show a lot more of the underside of things like wings and things.

The puddle stops some way from the plane

 

[Crispy]

well no doubt the cropping, colour balance etc was done in photoshop, but I will put my mod badge on the line and say that plane really is reflected in surface water.

 

[quimcunx]

This photo isn't photoshopped.

I can't work out why the reflection is the way it is.

 

[lizzieloo]

Discovering that it has been photoshopped doesn't necessarily mean the reflection isn't real, there might have been a baggage handler in the shot that has been edited out.

I think the reflection is real

 

[danny la rouge]

If you're far enough away from an object reflected in a flat plane, then the difference in viewing angle is negligible - think about the ratio of eye elevation to target distance.

More or less what I was going to say.

I've no idea whether it's photoshopped, but the reflection isn't the evidence.

 

[Crispy]

Also, look at the tip of the V in Virgin - visible below the wingtip in the real plane, hidden by the wingtip in the reflection.
Likewise the top edge of the rear hatch.

 

[boskysquelch]

do reflections nearer to observer enlarge the subject matter further in the distance?

 

[Pip]

 

[cybertect]

Also, look at the tip of the V in Virgin - visible below the wingtip in the real plane, hidden by the wingtip in the reflection.
Likewise the top edge of the rear hatch.

Yep. There are a few subtle differences in the perspective.

 

[boskysquelch]

I can't work out why the reflection is the way it is.

angle of incidence.


...note how reflection is smaller, even though nearer to observer, too

 

[Spymaster]

well no doubt the cropping, colour balance etc was done in photoshop, but I will put my mod badge on the line and say that plane really is reflected in surface water.

I'll put Crispy's mod badge on it too.

Fran thinks that the words 'Virgin Atlantic' shouldn't be reflected because they're on the top of the fuselage. I maintain that because the puddle is some way in front of the aircraft, the angle of reflection is fine. Whilst other elements may have been Photoshopped, the reflection of the airline's name is not out of place.

 

[Crispy]

do reflections nearer to observer enlarge the subject matter further in the distance?

No, just change the viewing angle.

PS: No refraction involved, just reflection

 

[bluestreak]

 

[kyser_soze]

Ahh, the old memes are the best...

 

[xes]

meta data says Adobe photoshop cs macintosh

alot of cameras use adobe to put the picture on your pc. (well, mine does)

 

[boskysquelch]

a lot of people decide to instruct their cameras to use the bloatware provided by Adobe for use with their cameras because it is heavily suggested that they do so.


not because cameras "use" Adobe... quite the opposite.

 

[cybertect]

PS Elements is bloatware?

 

[mauvais]

Yes it has been photoshopped.

Why? because the image on the water should not be a mirror image of what is above it, a view of the plane from the vantage point of the reflection (i.e. down) would show a lot more of the underside of things like wings and things.

Where's the plane? Where's the water?

 

[kained&able]

i don't think its photshopped massivly.