Is there a 'normal' Butchers in Brixton?

[Aldebaran]

The only difference after this is that halal meat is hung for 12 (?) hours to drain all the blood. Other abattoirs can hose down and butcher the carcass earlier.

I depends on the size of the animal and where it is done and for which purpose or occasion. For example when sheeps get slaughtered on occasion of a feast usually it does not take 12 hours before it gets prepared.
If people go to their local market for a chicken they are alive until bought and then their head is chopped off on the counter. When I saw this for the first time and it amused me that all the other chickens, witnessing that, went along their business while one of them was grabbed, put flat on the counter and his head chopped off. (All of that handling takes about 3 seconds.)

I compared that with the method I saw used in one of my European's friends town, where a big chicken farmer had his business.
We often went to visit there as children and often enough I witnessed how the chickens were caught (they ran free, you would call that a biological farming) locked with some twelve together in wooden boxes (these has wide spaces to give them air) and transported to the hall where they were slaughtered.
That happened by taken a chicken out of a box, restrain it on its side on the butcher's lap, slit the throat and while they began to bleed out the feathers were plucked. After which the innards were teared out of the body through the arse (often there were unscaled eggs coming with that too and which were held seperate). When that was done the chicken was put upside down in a sort of cylinder at a turning wheal, so that the rest of the blood could drip out. Took 3 to 5 minutes from slitting throat to hanging upside down on the wheal.
If that was then the biological humane way of keeping and killing chickens not even twenty years ago, I have no clue why people in the West all of a sudden are so obsessed that halal slaughter is "gruesome".

salaam.

 

[Dan U]

i fucking love rhubarb

i hope they don't suffer to much before going in to my crumble.

 

[tangentlama]

All the butchers I've seen round the market are halal. Is there anywhere I can go to get 'normal' meat, or am I stuck with supermarkets or paying through the nose at Borough Market?

Halal is normal for me, as is Kosher. Your idea of 'normal' isn't normal for me.

 

[tangentlama]

The God of Islam - Allah - is not the same God of the Christian faith or Judaism.

You are wrong. Allah is one-and-the-same G-d as 'the G-d of Judaism'. For Islam, Torah is highly important, as is the rest of 'The Book' (Nevi'im and Ketuvim).

There is a shibboleth - a difference in vowel pronunciation due to difference between Ivrit and Aravit. One of the trinitarian aspect of the G-d of the Christian faith - Jesus - is thought of as the same as G-d (or 'one with G-d') and is not the same as the G-d of Judaism or Islam, because we do not believe that Jesus is the son of G-d. Simply, our belief is that we are all the Children of G-d, and there is no one special person who can be 'the only son'.

It might be commonly thought that 'all roads lead to god so follow whichever one makes you happy' but the reality is very, very different.

No. You are wrong.

But this thread isn't the place for this discussion ... I believe there's a 'religion and philosophy' forum somewhere here, where people more educated than I will be able to discuss the issue.

Why not discuss it here, where you brought up your misconception. You are wrong about this, and therefore correction of your misconception here is important.

 

[Orang Utan]

They don't call it the Rhubarb Triangle for nothing....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhubarb_Triangle

You can hear forced rhubarb growing apparently

 

[Orang Utan]

You are wrong. Allah is one-and-the-same G-d as 'the G-d of Judaism'
There is a shibboleth - a difference in vowel pronunciation due to difference between Ivrit and Aravit. One of the trinitarian aspect of the G-d of the Christian faith - Jesus - is thought of as the same as G-d (or 'one with G-d') and is not the same as the G-d of Judaism or Islam, because we do not believe that Jesus is the son of G-d. Simply, our belief is that we are all the Children of G-d, and there is no one special person who can be 'the only son'.


No. You are wrong.

Why not discuss it here, where you brought up your misconception. You are wrong about this, and therefore correction of your misconception here is important.

Why are you spelling God 'G-d'?

 

[trabuquera]

You can hear forced rhubarb growing apparently

Yeah, SCREAMING at the INJUSTICE of the way it's being ABUSED....

 

[Mrs Magpie]

You can hear forced rhubarb growing apparently

I've heard my outdoor stuff growing. It makes a sort of creaking noise. Not all the time, just when it's really starting off after winter.

 

[Mrs Magpie]

Why are you spelling God 'G-d'?

It's about being unable to destroy the name of God if it's on paper or something destroyable. I think it's a Jewish custom. Someone else on the boards does the same and explained it (Cloo?).

 

[frogwoman]

It's about being unable to destroy the name of God if it's on paper or something destroyable. I think it's a Jewish custom. Someone else on the boards does the same and explained it (Cloo?).

It was me and I dont do it that much for various reasons. Basically it's about not being able to destroy God's name, and also because you're not really allowed to represent the true name of God in writing in case someone damages it, which is why its better (if you believe this) to write "G-d" even if you're writing in English.