cesare
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I think you'll find that if you'd posted a thread asking where you can buy pork and bacon in Brixton, you'd have had an entirely different response e.g. try Sainsburys.
Is there a 'normal' Butchers in Brixton?
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I think you'll find that if you'd posted a thread asking where you can buy pork and bacon in Brixton, you'd have had an entirely different response e.g. try Sainsburys.
ajdown
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Why? How else would you describe the question?
"Is there a non-kosher, non-halal, butchers that sells meat in Brixton that hasn't been reared with religious standards in mind or dedicated to any particular deity during any point in its life or process of slaughter" probably wouldn't have fitted in the title bar.
Hence, abbreviation "normal". Just plain ol' meat, without any religious influence.
ajdown
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I wanted something a little better than 'prepacked and mass produced'. In the end, I went to Borough market and bought some very nice Boston sausages from Lincolnshire, some bacon from somewhere up north I forget the name of, and because of the prices ended up getting a piece of pork from Sainsburys.
My partner is allergic to pork (medical reasons, not religious) so when she's not here (like this weekend) I make the most of it. It's not such a big deal for a fry up because she doesn't mind me eating regular sausages or having bacon as long as I cook it in a separate pan. Sometimes we just both have veggie sausages, which I don't mind either.
Orang Utan
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I think you're huge fat liar
Orang Utan
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And I've never heard of anyone being allergic to pork for religious reasons anyway 
ajdown
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And I've never heard of anyone being allergic to pork for religious reasons anyway
She's allergic to pork, rather than choosing not eating pork for religious reasons.
Clear now?
Incidently, she loves scotch eggs before she found out she was allergic to pork. There's no vegetarian alternative. I bought an ostrich meatball at Borough Market that I hope I can flatten out and wrap round a boiled egg to make a 'scostrich egg' for her.
Big gap in the market for someone...
cesare
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And I've never heard of anyone being allergic to pork for religious reasons anyway
Great wriggling though
Y_I_Otter
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That's been my experience too. I won't say it's always the case, but the vast majority of people who decry halal/kosher killing also seem to have other issues with Jews and Muslims unrelated to meat.
The problem here is the culling of older or unproductive animals. It's the same with goatmeat-- unless you're raising your own, it's a crap shoot whether you're going to get meat from a yearling (preferred) or a milked-out nanny six or eight years old (tough and disgusting). I'd imagine sheep raised for breeding lambs or wool production get into the stream that way as well. If meat quality is the primary concern, it matters very little how the animal was killed, or if it came from a "normal" butcher.
I wasn't aware that halal abbatoirs employed stunning.
Where I live there are standards, but they're far, far lower than anything I'd consider acceptable. And on-farm inspections are very rare-- they usually only occur if a formal complaint has been lodged.
cesare
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You might have to move somewhere where you can get nice non-supermarket prepacked and non-halal more easily.
Mrs Magpie
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Pork allergy does exist though. When I worked in a hospital school, I came across a couple of kids who were allergic to pork.
Despite reported posts calling for his banning owing to his views, having looked back through ajdown's posts I have come to the conclusion that some of his attitudes lead me to believe he's led a somewhat sheltered life. He just needs to mix in more diverse circles and I'm sure his horizons and mind will broaden with experience. I wouldn't call him an overt racist.
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Definately. I've recently bought a half mutton and half pig direct from small producers and the quality is astounding and the prices are about comparable to supermarket meat, I intend to avoid supermarket meat whenever possible from now on.
nor was I until i had this conversation, mainly prompted by my son's curiosity. He was asking questions, I wanted to give him actual answers about halal welfare standards provided by someone I know eats halal and is very concerned about the welfare of animals, not answers clouded by someone else's agenda.
ethel
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hmm..the halal food authority say that stunning is a new area: http://www.halalfoodauthority.co.uk/define.html
ajdown
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Actually, the best pork steak I ever ate... was about 20 years ago, at the American Colony Hotel.... in Jerusalem.
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cesare
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Orang Utan
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People have reported him? Jesus, that's a bit busybodied! You can't ban people for being a little bit twerpish
ajdown
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Not entirely a sheltered life then
I had a week's trip round Israel visiting 'Biblical sites'.
Some of them had to be taken with a pinch of salt, such as 'the' tree that Zaccheus sat in (2000 years later the same tree, and someone made a note of it?) but it was an interesting experience anyway.
Been to the US a few times to visit online friends too.
Although, to be honest, I've never really felt the need to 'travel overseas' a great deal, partly because there's so many places in the UK I haven't been to yet.
ajdown
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I thought most of the calls for me to be banned was the thought that I was a 'returning banned poster' ... which I know - and presumably the mods have also checked - I'm not.
I wasn't aware that one of the rules for posting on U75 was that you only had to hold a narrow set of viewpoints based around some form of left wing political ideology.
I don't fit in round here - I know that, and it doesn't bother me. There's some good stuff going on as well as the things that people seem to disagree with me over.
One good thing to remember from another forum I use ... attack the post, not the poster.
Mrs Magpie
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I sometimes ban on the grounds of extreme irritation (like this morning for instance) but to be honest ajdown hasn't really featured on my radar, but this is not true of other people. To be fair, I don't spend much time on Urban because I'm too busy elsewhere so I don't often pick up on stuff. I rarely have time to read reported post emails either (I deleted over 200 this morning without opening them, to tell the truth).
ajdown
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Hmm... things are improving... I've posted over 400 times and only 200 reported posts? Maybe they weren't all mine though.
same here, i avoid halal meat for this reason also.
so you don't believe people should have the choice to refuse to eat meat that has been blessed by a religion that they don't believe in?
ajdown
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My guess is that most people here don't have a religion, or their belief systems mean that this isn't an issue (either because they don't eat meat full stop, or there is no conflict).
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Did I say that?
If you're bothered by any wafty words that may have been uttered over your food, you're perfectly at liberty to buy something else, even though you can never be totally sure that some sneaky religious type didn't give your coconut crunch or walnut whip a little prayer on the production line.
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or they have other concerns like welfare standards of the animals, which make what god/s the slaughter was 'blessed' by far down their list of concerns.
ajdown
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Question... since when was 'muslim' a race? I thought it was a religion, with followers from many backgrounds?
