Is The Wire any good really? (full of spoilers btw!)

[EddyBlack]

Oh, and Eddy Black - thanks for the spoiler, you rotting piece of cunt juice.

twas a bit mean that.

theres plenty to look forward to though, the bit where Big Joey kills Bunk with a grenade is one that sticks in the mind.

 

[kained&able]

thats bits class and very unexpected.

dave

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

I think the Wire is good but it's not the second coming. I think TV is just such a load of shit that the wire really stands out. I'm only on season 2 so I can't say too much yet, maybe I will be saying it is fucking amazing in a week or two.
Great to see something without having 'last time on the wire' or having things spelt out for the audience.

 

[belboid]

One of the three greatest tv series' ever made imo. Almost nothing wrong with it, except for when the NY gangsters come in and kill everyone off at the end. Tho that was just to ensure there could never be any spin offs I heard.

It does sometimes take me a while to hear what new characters are saying when they first appear, especially the kids, muttering bastards. And there probably aren't quite enough cops who are complete and utter cunts (like XXXXX in season 4, who should just die), but otherwise, characterisation, plotting, depth, verisimilitude, it's got them all in buckets.

 

[El Jefe]

twas a bit mean that.

you say mean, i say a cunt's trick.

 

[Biddlybee]

Anyone fancy lending me the first series then?

 

[big eejit]

Buy it! I buy very few DVDs, but have all series of The Wire cos every time we finished watching one we had to order the next one straight away to cope with the addiction!

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

Too many spoilers here, arrrhhhh.

 

[belboid]

my copies still on loan, to the fourth person and with another two in the queue, i'm afraid

 

[Biddlybee]

Buy it! I buy very few DVDs, but have all series of The Wire cos every time we finished watching one we had to order the next one straight away to cope with the addiction!

They're not cheap though... and what if I don't like it?

 

[belboid]

get it off ebay and then put it back up for sale, should end up costing you no more than a fiver that way. i've done that for a few things, a reasonably cheap method

 

[g force]

I love the Wire...it's truly superb. I just hate the over intellectualisation of it at times.

 

[Biddlybee]

get it off ebay and then put it back up for sale, should end up costing you no more than a fiver that way. i've done that for a few things, a reasonably cheap method

good thinking

 

[isitme]

just seen more fucking spoilers

can someone put a warning on the thread title

i never would have thought that bubbles was an alien btw

 

[Jon-of-arc]

just seen more fucking spoilers

can someone put a warning on the thread title

i never would have thought that bubbles was an alien btw

and the bit where marlo, chris and slim charles run a train on Prop Joe - there was no need.

 

[belboid]

i never would have thought that bubbles was an alien btw

c'mon. obvious man who fell to earth rip off there. sorry, homage

 

[kerb]

what the fuck is wrong with the peeps round here giving the plotlines away?

its fairly obvious that most of the people havent watched the series, yet still they have to give away what happens.

 

[DotCommunist]

I need the subtitles too, and the DVDs have them.

check the people who don't listen to hip hop

 

[Voley]

It's hugely over-rated.

I got bored in the middle of the second series. I'll probably give it another go later on - I like it but it's not a patch on The Sopranos.

 

[upsidedownwalrus]

I know it's very good, but I find that I'm never quite in the mood to watch it. Studying hard and looking after my boy, I get a limited amount of TV_watching time, and I really need to watch slightly lighter stuff generally..

 

[DotCommunist]

It's hugely over-rated.

I got bored in the middle of the second series. I'll probably give it another go later on - I like it but it's not a patch on The Sopranos.

Sopranos is great, but it's far more episodic than The Wire. Don't think you can compare the two really, or at least not beyond a personal preference judgement

 

[Voley]

The Sopranos never gets boring. The Wire does.

 

[corporate whore]

Sopranos is great, but it's far more episodic than The Wire.

I agree. Watching some of Wire series 4 last night, I thought how few scenes are meaningless. There's not much flab on it.

 

[DotCommunist]

The Sopranos never gets boring. The Wire does.

thats an attention span issue I'm afraid. The wire is more like chapters in a book, so you're in it for major plotlines and characters and the sub-plots are thier for texture and realism. The episodic nature of the Sopranos means your getting mini-plots that pay off in one episode alongside the larger story-arcs. Thats very TV, and works brilliantly but it does reward casual viewing inna way the wire doesn't.

 

[Santino]

I love The Sopranos, but The Wire really is in a class above. This may sound like an old-fashioned thing to say, but I also find The Wire to be morally superior, or rather, more sophisticated in articulating the moral ambiguities of its subject matter while, at the same time, not judging any of the characters in a crude moralistic way.

 

[Voley]

thats an attention span issue I'm afraid. The wire is more like chapters in a book, so you're in it for major plotlines and characters and the sub-plots are thier for texture and realism. The episodic nature of the Sopranos means your getting mini-plots that pay off in one episode alongside the larger story-arcs. Thats very TV, and works brilliantly but it does reward casual viewing inna way the wire doesn't.

Nah, the characters slowly rise and fall in The Sopranos, too. You have episodes where there isn't a whole lot going on - it's just setting the scene - but it's much more engaging for me than The Wire. If Christopher's going to go back on drugs or not is more interesting to me than whether McNulty's gonna fuck his boss over. Simple as that.

 

[isitme]

Sopranos series 1 to 4 are amazing then it gets a bit dull until the last series

a bit like the wire only they only had 5 series

 

[belboid]

The Sopranos never gets boring. The Wire does.

I've known aq few people who said they found the second season a bit dull. Dont know why, it was belting in my book, even if it is the least belting of the five

 

[mrsfran]

check the people who don't listen to hip hop

Or, check the people who have a hearing loss

 

[kained&able]

i love sopranos but perfer the wire. I just find it more absorbing and a lot less obvious.

especilly the bit where kima, mcnutty and bubs get it on i mean i didn't see that happening at all!


dave