is the sound identical with the vibrating air?

[max_freakout]

Sound is the popular name for the vibration.

I disagree with that, i think that 'sound' is actually the name fot the thing you hear. You don't 'hear' the air vibrating, you hear the sound, the vibrating air might cause the sound, but it isnt identical to the sound, in the same way that the light illuminates your visual field and 'causes

Of course, you can't hear the sound if you're not around to pick that vibration up but it's still there.

In what sense is it 'still there', IF a 'sound' is by definition a 'thing heard', and in this instance nothing is heard

 

[J77]

I disagree with that, i think that 'sound' is actually the name fot the thing you hear. You don't 'hear' the air vibrating, you hear the sound, the vibrating air might cause the sound, but it isnt identical to the sound, in the same way that the light illuminates your visual field and 'causes

You do 'hear' the vibration.

Vibrations are characterised by frequncies - the frequency range you hear is the sound.

Dogs can hear higher frequencies which we can't - those higher frequencies are a sound to a dog but not to us they are a silence.

When we think of sound - we think of a specific frequency range of vibration.

 

[dada]

You do 'hear' the vibration.

Vibrations are characterised by frequncies - the frequency range you hear is the sound.

Dogs can hear higher frequencies which we can't - those higher frequencies are a sound to a dog but not to us they are a silence.

When we think of sound - we think of a specific frequency range of vibration.

or 'feel' the vibration?

a deaf person puts his hand on a metal pole, beats it with a rod. though he can't 'hear' he'd definitely 'feel' the 'sound'.

 

[J77]

or 'feel' the vibration?

a deaf person puts his hand on a metal pole, beats it with a rod. though he can't 'hear' he'd definitely 'feel' the 'sound'.

Nice - and you can actually feel and wider range of frequencies than you can hear.

Is hearing a subset of feeling?

 

[dada]

Nice - and you can actually feel and wider range of frequencies than you can hear.

yes, most definitely.
through liquid, solid, not only air.
a heavy truck passes by from far. you can't hear it but you can feel it from the vibration on the ground through your bare feet.

now and again i think of how to create music for the deaf.

Is hearing a subset of feeling?

feeling - emotion?
feeling - senses? then yes.