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Is the "Brights Movement" a Cult?

Nope, that's my line...:rolleyes::D

Alde, I had no idea you're from Bosnia...:rolleyes::D

To my knowledge Bosnia is not in the Middle East, but since ideas about what is the Middle East are shifting constantly (the USA seems to think it is part of the USA) you never know these days.
What Bosnia has to do with this "conversation" is also anyone's guess. Of course you must have your own explanation for it but that gives no guarantee to a plausible one (and I'm afraid especially so for people familiar with your posts).

salaam.
 
Doesn't make much sense to me. There are 3 major religious groups in the Balkan and a wide range of languages belonging to the Indo-European and non-Indo European group.(There is a curious linguistic phenomenon in the Balkan though, called Balkanism which points to a range of languages with various genetic background showing nevertheless a wide range of grammatical similarities, but it counts less for Greek and Serbo-Croation than it does for the others.)
Serbo-Croatian is in fact West South-Slavic, now named after the nation states where it is spoken: Bosnia, Croatia and Serbia. Differences between them are not greater than for example the differences between the Dutch (which should in fact be called Netherlandic) as it is used in The Netherlands and Flanders.
And no, I didn't study West South-Slavic.

salaam.
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/22/science/22angi.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Dwyer's argument from ignorance and prejudice "it's completely obvious to everybody" is almost a perfect precis of the limitations of the philosophical approach and the advantages of science. All of our prejudices are 'completely obvious' if we limit ourselves to personal musings - a la the hegel twins - our prejudices are never challenged. If we use the tools of scientific enquiry - imperfect as they may be - we discover that a lot of what we thought was totally obvious is in fact mere prejudice.

The New York Times is perhaps a strange authority for a soi-disant anarchist to cite, but that merely emphasizes the yawning contradiction between Gurrier's politics and his epistemology.

While apes can indeed be taught extremely rudimentary use of symbols, the difference between human language and anything available to the animal kingdom is enormous, unmistakeable and--as I said before--completely obvious to everybody. Animals neither develop symbolic symbols in the wild nor show any ability to develop new symbols independently. Properly speaking it is the capacity for innovation in language that is definitively human, not the use of symbols per se, but that difference still constitutes a dramatic qualitative difference that cannot be explained by biological evolution.

The interesting question is why our scientists feel compelled to perform such contortions in the service of the propositions that human beings are nothing but animals, and that the human mind can be studied in the same way as that of a chimpanzee. And that is a question that must be answered by philosophers.
 
Animals neither develop symbolic symbols in the wild nor show any ability to develop new symbols independently.

How can you know any of that? What is a symbol for a human need not be one for an animal and vice versa.

Properly speaking it is the capacity for innovation in language that is definitively human, not the use of symbols per se, but that difference still constitutes a dramatic qualitative difference that cannot be explained by biological evolution.

See above. The fact that we can't understand the communication of non humans doesn't mean they don't have a language of their own. If you want to call that communication "merely sounds" that is your choice. I wouldn't be that arrogant.

The interesting question is why our scientists feel compelled to perform such contortions in the service of the propositions that human beings are nothing but animals, and that the human mind can be studied in the same way as that of a chimpanzee. And that is a question that must be answered by philosophers.

At this moment the human mind can't be studied but on a very limited scale and I approach those claims with very much scepticism. It is self-delusional to convince yourself you are able to study the mind of anyone since you can't even control let alone understand your own in full.
Which brings about the question how on earth anyone can claim to have studied the mind of non humanoids to the point of understanding and insight.

salaam.
 
We have learned a great deal through thousands of years of research in Philosophy and now psychology and social psychology, for sure...

If one doesn't know that - tough titties...:rolleyes::D
 
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