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Is taking photographs of homeless people for your own self gain wrong?

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Rocking up to a homeless person and just blasting out a load of context-free "Oh look! It's a tramp!" shots is one of the worst photo clichés of the lot. And it's rude too.

I know this because I did exactly the same thing when I was first started taking photos.
 
What has it changed?

It has bought some slices of bread for the soup run.

Not quite sure I understand your view, you deprecate the person that gives 10p, what do you want them to do? Not give 10p? As you get older and have a bit more life experience, you will realise that tiny increments are much more common than grand gestures.
 
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Rocking up to a homeless person and just blasting out a load of context-free "Oh look! It's a tramp!" shots is one of the worst photo clichés of the lot. And it's rude too.

I know this because I did exactly the same thing when I was first started taking photos.

It isn't something that I would do at all , but then I'm not a professional photographer.
 
It has bought some slices of bread for the soup run.

Not quite sure I understand your view, you deprecate the person that gives 10p, what do you want them to do? Not give 10p? As you get older and have a bit more life experience, you will realise that tiny increments are much more common than grand gestures.

Yeah, you are better off not giving 10p cos it is not as though as you give a shit is it? If you did you wouldn't be sticking a £800 camera in their face.
 
...As you get older and have a bit more life experience, you will realise that tiny increments are much more common than grand gestures.


FFS! You really are a cunt.

Sorry for being so rude and unchristian like. But, 10p!!!

Keep it mate. By yourself a gobstopper and make it last a few hours if not days ;)
 
I saw some guy in Leipzig taking some photos of a homeless person yesterday. The mendicant was getting the hump about it but what's he going to do? One flappy soled shoe out of line and he would have got a stomping from the Polizei.
 
I saw some guy in Leipzig taking some photos of a homeless person yesterday. The mendicant was getting the hump about it but what's he going to do? One flappy soled shoe out of line and he would have got a stomping from the Polizei.

Are conditions in the East as bad as the news reports?
 
Plenty of amateur 'photojournos' bouncing around the refugee camps on the Burma / Thai border, goading toddlers into poking turds with a straw and such like. Bunch of soiled wankers.

"Hopefully, when we get home, our photos will really make an impact."

"Yes I hope so too. We really should be doing more to... fuckin hell, a bloke without any lips - quick!!"
 
I can understand people wnating to photograph something profound as a homeless person begging for food outside of mcdonalds but I can't forgive them for it.

I would ask permission and also try to do something useful for the person involved then and as long as it is used for something useful such as to raise awareness of homeless issues and any cash made went to the cause then cool....
 
Are conditions in the East as bad as the news reports?

Leipzig itself is quite pleasant, if in the midst of a Russian gangster turf war over who controls the door (and hence the drugs) in the local nightclubs. However, once outside the charming city centre there are still a huge amount of empty and derelict buildings probably caused by the massive depopulation when anybody who could move under their own steam voted with their feet and legged it in the direction of capitalism at the first opportunity.

One thing is for certain, the local plod do not fuck around with filling in forms and human rights bullshit like our lot.
 
Why do you think he took those photos?

Considering he was, according to his own account

1) Studying art at Manchester Poly in 1970, with an interest in street photography and documenting the city (from other pics in his stream)

2) Helping out with soup runs round Manchester

I'd have thought it quite natural. He seems to remember quite a bit of detail of the story of the man pictured forty years later, so it's hardly an intrusive, casual snap. They must have engaged on some level.

Beyond that, I don't know whether I can speculate about his motivations.


On to your edit...

Considering I have been spammed by him on flickr.

How? Is it relevant?
 
No it doesn't.

Other than showing yourself up as a charmless cunt, you have said nothing.


I'm going to bed now. I have a safe room with a bed and blankets and shit. I have a luxury room these days :)

I will think about all my mates here who are now drunken comatosed under bridges, in doorways, in the park on a bench. It isn't actually that bad! I prefer it to mortgage gloom and pay back stress. I still sleep with all doors and windows wide open even in winter. I like it. I feel safe.

Few here go hungry. There are plenty of free kitchens run by religious groups. Say prayers and you get your morning coffee. Evenings are just a get the grub rush. Addicts, wronguns, lostuns and others.

But, when you are hungry, lacking nicotiene, booze, or whatever and some cunt sticks a camera in your face without so much as a 'hello', it fucking hurts to the point of rage. So, don't be surprised if one of those 'reactionary' down and outs comes along and whacks you in the face if you haven't even got the decency and courage to say 'hello' in the first instance.

OK. I'm off to bed now :)
 
Considering he was, according to his own account

1) Studying art at Manchester Poly in 1970, with an interest in street photography and documenting the city (from other pics in his stream)

2) Helping out with soup runs round Manchester

I'd have thought it quite natural. He seems to remember quite a bit of detail of the story of the man pictured forty years later, so it's hardly an intrusive, casual snap. They must have engaged on some level.

Beyond that, I don't know whether I can speculate about his motivations.


On to your edit...



How? Is it relevant?

1) So he took photos, by your own admission, to better his degree and to rid himself this guilt he did soup runs.

It is relevant insofar as the person on flickr obvisouly wanted recognition for his 'art'.
 
Leipzig itself is quite pleasant, if in the midst of a Russian gangster turf war over who controls the door (and hence the drugs) in the local nightclubs. However, once outside the charming city centre there are still a huge amount of empty and derelict buildings probably caused by the massive depopulation when anybody who could move under their own steam voted with their feet and legged it in the direction of capitalism at the first opportunity.

One thing is for certain, the local plod do not fuck around with filling in forms and human rights bullshit like our lot.

They never did. I always found the German police much more brusque than our lot. Not that I ever went out of my way to offend them, not when they have a gun on their hip. :D
 
I wasn't aware that you had made a point, a little gratuitous abuse, but no point.

Where have I been abusive to you, in fact, I'll extant that so far as to say when I have ever been abusive to you in my 7 years on these boards?
 
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