Is Sol Campbell Finished?

[Corax]

What exactly are the rules? Can I say what I think is going to be in the papers on Sunday? (IE what I've heard). Might as well just keep schtum because if it's true they'll probably get an injunction. Plus it's Friday already, only a couple of days til the shit (possibly) hits the fan.

Aye. I know you have to watch your back ed, not having a team of lawyers at your beck or owt, but conjecture and discussion ain't slander is it? Not when clearly presented as such?

And who the fuck sues for being called gay anyway? Oh yeah, that ozzie nob'ead.

Absolutely – Le Saux being termed "gay" because he read the Guardian and had an interest in architecture. It'd be funny if it wasn't so depressing.

It's funny, I always though Le Saux being a trainspotter was a big secret I was in on because my mate's boyf went trainspotting with him (he said, allegedly, blahdefuckingblah). Then a couple of years later, it was being shouted from the rooftops. Then, very quickly, it was made very clear that he was a happily non-trainspotting car-driving man thankyou very much.

My conclusion: Not a fucking clue. Don't care if he's being honest, but if not, he's cheating and lying to his fat controller. Which is a bit crap.

Ed: One word & I edit. Your playground, your rules.

 

[Wowbagger]

And who the fuck sues for being called gay anyway?

I would if I was a footballer. Have you any idea of the size of the metaphorical bucket of shit that's going to unload on him if he doesn't fight the rumours? He's involved with possibly the most homophobic working environment left today.

 

[DexterTCN]

He's probably more worried about Football's reaction than The Public's.

Some day they really have to address that 'all in one big bath' thing.

 

[chieftain]

I would ask posters to remove all of their fact-free "I heard from a mate..." tittle tattle, and only post up something that has at least some actual basis in fact.

Not many Spurs fans like Sol Campbell... FACT

 

[Corax]

I would if I was a footballer. Have you any idea of the size of the metaphorical bucket of shit that's going to unload on him if he doesn't fight the rumours? He's involved with possibly the most homophobic working environment left today.

If a friend of mine, called Steve, who is a young black international scuba diver, was gay, I'd say... He's an International scuba diver. He's young, strong, and brighter than most pros imo. He should have the bollocks to shrug off any homophobia he gets as the worthless crap it is, on a par with the racial shite and monkey noises that he's no doubt endured along the way. I actually have a fair amount of sympathy for him right now, even though he deserted my diving club. I don't think he has any duty to be a role model to anyone in this regard. I think he'd make it easier for himself if he stepped up, not hid away, and he'd set a strong precedent and example as a side effect.

Fortunately, Steve isn't gay. Octopuses can sense if you're gay and are very homophobic, even reputedly attempted to drown the most flamboyant aquatic homosexuals. This deters many from pursuing the sport.

 

[The Pious Pawn]

Poor fucker he is going to get some nasty abuse now either way .

 

[where to]

Some day they really have to address that 'all in one big bath' thing.

they got rid of them years ago bc of hiv/aids.

communal showers now.

 

[Wowbagger]

If a friend of mine, called Steve, who is a young black international scuba diver, was gay, I'd say... He's an International scuba diver. He's young, strong, and brighter than most pros imo. He should have the bollocks to shrug off any homophobia he gets as the worthless crap it is, on a par with the racial shite and monkey noises that he's no doubt endured along the way.

The racial shite is, fortunately, much decreased from what it used to be. I don't think it's quite extinct yet, but with a bit of good fortune it soon will. Homophobia isn't. Arsenal (for example) was never exactly known for being a place where visiting black players could expect a hard time, but pretty much all the singers used to join in with "Le Saux takes it up the arse", and I wouldn't blame any player one bit if he does everything he can to avoid (at the very least) 19 working days where 30-40,000 people are yelling "(Player) takes it up the arse" every five minutes. It's not like the colour of your skin, where it's there for all to see. It can be hidden and it allows you to get on with your football without the massive distraction, so why not?

Would it be easier for our hypothetical player if he stepped up? Not necessarily. Maybe if several came out with him, because it's harder to go after several targets at once. But if everything was being directed solely at one target, I don't like to imagine what would be coming his way.

 

[andy2002]

It's funny, I always though Le Saux ***** *** was a big secret I was in on because ************** (he said, allegedly, blahdefuckingblah). Then a couple of years later, it was being shouted from the rooftops. Then, very quickly, it was made very clear that he was a happily married heterosexual man thankyou very much.

No offence, but I work for a magazine and hear this kind of stuff ALL the time from colleagues and contacts. I'm not saying you're lying but after a while it all becomes very repetitive and very tiresome. To hear some people talk, you'd think every footballer, actor and pop star in the country is gay.

Oh, and if Graeme Le Saux's lawyer saw this, he'd probably have grounds to start proceedings against U75, so it might be an idea to tone it down or remove it all together.

 

[kained&able]

if you do a quick google on sol campbell gay you find shit from 2002 these rumours have benn round for a while. saME with ljungberg same with a few other footballers.

challenging ones masclinity seems to be the norm and very few footballers have come out as gay. tis shocking.

to be honest i hope it is something as simple as that so he can and everyone else can just get over it and he can find some form before the world cup.


Just better not be anything more serious.

dave

 

[Corax]

I'm not saying you're lying

Good. I may have been lied to, I don't know.

Oh, and if Graeme Le Saux's lawyer saw this, he'd probably have grounds to start proceedings against U75, so it might be an idea to tone it down or remove it all together.

I think that's bollocks personally. I've clearly stated that I consider this thread mere conjecture (sure you recognise the term ), and it is therefore implicit that I regard my own postings as such and believe they should be regarded thus. But I've made some alterations anyway.

 

[andy2002]

I think that's bollocks personally.

And you'd be wrong. The content of your previous post was quite clearly libellous. Just adding "allegedly" on the end of it means precisely nothing.

Anyway, if this morning's Mirror is to be believed, Sol's love life is the cause of his problems. Only it's an 18-year-old girl in the frame, rather than anyone else.

 

[andy2002]

tbh, times have changed a bit since then, if he came out and was honest about it I don't know if he would come up against that much flak - no more than normal anyway...

I'd like to think that was the case but I'm not sure it is. I had a look at a football messageboard over at rivals.net last night and on it there were references to "pillow biting" and "arse bandits". Lovely, eh?

 

[Corax]

And you'd be wrong. The content of your previous post was quite clearly libellous. Just adding "allegedly" on the end of it means precisely nothing.

That's not the case though. What I've done is taken a hypothetical, albeit alleged, circumstance/scenario, and discussed my views on it, were it the case. That's discussion, not allegation, and English Tort demands more than that. Nice derail.

 

[Corax]

I'd like to think that was the case but I'm not sure it is. I had a look at a football messageboard over at rivals.net last night and on it there were references to "pillow biting" and "arse bandits". Lovely, eh?

The internet is never a shining example of the human race (other than U75, of course, lol). Public perception is now at a point were if players (gay - there must be some statistically surely? - and straight), clubs, fans organisations, the fa etc, and the media, gave one big almighty cry of "Who gives a fuck if they're gay?", it could have an impact that could even spark copycats in other countries. The internet aside. im(h)o.

 

[andy2002]

That's not the case though. What I've done is taken a hypothetical, albeit alleged, circumstance/scenario, and discussed my views on it, were it the case. That's discussion, not allegation, and English Tort demands more than that. Nice derail.

Before you wisely cleaned up your post, you quite clearly made a statement that alleged certain things about Le Saux - there was nothing hypothetical about it whatsoever. Adding the phrase "he said, allegedly, blahdefuckingblah" doesn't cover your arse either. I'm pretty good on libel because I work as a sub editor and suffice to say I wouldn't have let your comments find their way into the magazine I work for in a month of Sundays because the company lawyer would have had my guts for garters if I had.

 

[andy2002]

The internet is never a shining example of the human race (other than U75, of course, lol).

Unfortunately, for the most part, neither are crowds of football fans.

 

[xes]

I'm pretty sure I saw Sol last night. He was outside the arcade giving away games.

 

[STFC]

Rumours about Sol Campbell being gay have been around for years. In the week he apparently suffers a mini breakdown and one of his team mates cites "personal problems", the rumour mill goes into overdrive. The News of the World then reports, not with the front page exclusive everyone was expecting, that Campbell's problem is that he's got three birds on teh go at once and the pressure has got to him. Hmmm. Make of that what you will.

 

[iROBOT]

FFS. Is his really the kind of spiteful gossip you want to be peddling over the internet?

I couldn't give a fuck if he's a raging hetero, gay, bi, has six knobs or prefers sex with trees.

He's a footballer. Judge him on that.

As the man said...who cares who he's been knobing!

He's back in training today and am sure will be fighting fit for the World Cup...lets hope so, he's a class act and England (not to mention Arsenal) need him on top form.