Is Photography Going Out of Fashion?

[Stanley Edwards]

you're quite bitter about something

I'm not bitter about anything. I think Refused is a complete and utter nob end of waste of space, but as for the thread topic; I've simply asked if photography is going out of fashion?

IMO it is. It has peaked.

Why is everyone getting so upset about it? Because fashion matters to some?

So what if a big D5s becomes unfashionable? It will be more affordable. Uncool. I like that. I don't give a shit what others think of my camera, lenses, or clothes for that matter. I like it when people appreciate my photographic art, but I'm not that bothered that few get it.

I don't like Refused. I don't like the constant crap he spouts my way, but I don't care because he's a half wit dum fuck who knows fuck all about photography beyond what the fashion mags tell him he is supposed to know.

 

[Stanley Edwards]

Photographers don't make art.

Photographers make photographs!

Artists can make art using photography as a medium

 

[big eejit]

I was reminded of this thread when I read this short story by William Boyd in today's Guardian, specifically this bit:

Fernando Benn's show at No Parking is called "WAR"/WAR. It consists of a series of huge photographs, six feet by six, of famous war photographs: Robert Capa, Hubert Van Es, Don McCullin, Philip Jones Griffiths, Tim Page – all classic shots, almost all familiar to Bethany. Fernando Benn has cut them out of books, pinned them on his studio wall, photographed them so that they are framed by the background and blown them up. Benn is standing in the middle of the gallery idly supervising the hang. He's a man in his 40s wearing a leather jacket, jeans and red cowboy boots. He hasn't shaved for a few days. "Great, fantastic," he says. "No, no, leave it there. It's fine." Bethany asks him if she can get him a coffee or a water. "I'll have one of Howard's vodka and oranges," Benn says. When Bethany hands him his drink she senses him looking her up and down. "You're new," he says. "You weren't at No Parking for my last show. What's your racket, darling?" Bethany says she's interested in photography. "Photography is dead," Benn says with a cough-laugh. "Who was it who said that? Now we're in the digital age, photography has lost its veracity because it can be manipulated so easily – yeah? The photographic image has lost its power." But you're a photographer, Bethany says, unreflectingly, how can you say that? "I'm not a photographer," Benn says, a little wearily, "I'm an artist who chooses to work in lens-based media." He gestures at his photos. "These are digital pictures of photos shot on film. It's the only way they can achieve any power, any veracity."

Nice one Fernando / Neville.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/aug/01/william-boyd-short-story-snapshots

 

[Refused as fuck]

Very obviously touched a raw nerve with the snob angle.

 

[weltweit]

Artists can make art using photography as a medium

Oh,

Artists can make art

But

Photographers make photos!

 

[Hocus Eye.]

Are we doing the "Is Photography Art" debate now? It is about time it was resurrected. It first emerged in the 1850s and ran for a couple of decades. It then recurred at the turn of the century. Then it popped up again from 1929 for a few years. Then it made an appearance in the the 1950s. It seems to have come to the fore every ten years after that. I suppose it is due for a re-run.

I stand with PH Emerson up to a point. The point where he retracted that is.

 

[weltweit]

Well get to it if you wanna

Me I am not an artist, I am definately a photographer.

What I produce are photographs not artworks..

And I do the minimum in PS so even there I am not being artistic ..

I just use the camera and lenses etc filters perhaps to create a photo ..

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Oh,

Artists can make art

But

Photographers make photos!

 

[Pie 1]

Very obviously touched a raw nerve with the snob angle.

He's got a bit of a point though, hasn't he? You are a tool.

 

[Refused as fuck]

That might be true, but it has nothing to do with anything. The snobbery is amusing, though.