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Is philosophy the only subject?

nosos said:
Ok well the OP is stupid.

The criticism of continental philosophy is just ill-informed. Likewise the praise of analytic philosophy.

It's a spin-off, from the -do you think your subject's the best- thread in the general forum where max said philosophy was the only subject..

It's a bit of a daft question, I mean, obviously philosophy's the subject where you consider all the other subjects put together,

But I quite like the way it's gone a bit tangential.
 
Demosthenes said:
This is probably really going to irritate you,

Read the Gospel according to John.

eta. But to be fair, my first impression of your quote was that it was meaningless waffle;.
Do you mean that at first you didn't understand the quotation, but now you do? Genuine question. And, no, I'm not going to read St John's Gospel. If you think there is something valid and interesting in the quotation, please paraphrase it for me.
 
Wrote a long response, but have just edited it all out,

No, - educate yourself. If you don't understand that the Gospel of John makes major and influential contentions about the nature of Truth, then you're not properly educated,. And if you were, you'd understand a possible interpretation of the quote that you can make no sense of.

A clue. - a) The beginning of the gospel -
Pilate's question to Jesus,

What did Pilate do next, and Why. ??
 
Demosthenes said:
Wrote a long response, but have just edited it all out,

No, - educate yourself. If you don't understand that the Gospel of John makes major and influential contentions about the nature of Truth, then you're not properly educated,.
A bold statement, and quite wrong of course. I wonder how many educated people in India, China and any other country without a Christian history would respond to your assertion.
And if you were, you'd understand a possible interpretation of the quote that you can make no sense of.

A clue. - a) The beginning of the gospel -
Pilate's question to Jesus,

What did Pilate do next, and Why. ??
No, I'm not going to read it. What I'm interested in is whether the Badiou quotation is even meaningful in any important sense, and what you think that meaning is. If there is a meaningful proposition somewhere in there (whether true or not), it should be possible to state it in a finite number of words without referring to some other text. An objective statement about the world should not depend on one form of words or one authority.
 
Alex B said:
A bold statement, and quite wrong of course. I wonder how many educated people in India, China and any other country without a Christian history would respond to your assertion.
No, I'm not going to read it. What I'm interested in is whether the Badiou quotation is even meaningful in any important sense, and what you think that meaning is. If there is a meaningful proposition somewhere in there (whether true or not), it should be possible to state it in a finite number of words without referring to some other text. An objective statement about the world should not depend on one form of words or one authority.

Well I'd expect an educated European to have read it, just the same as I'd expect an educated chinese person to have read at least a bit of confucius and Lao tse, and like I'd expect an educated Indian to have read at least some of the bhagavad-gita, the upanishads, and the vedas, - i think.

I think the badiou quotation is probably meaningful, I can make various guesses as to what he might mean by it, - it's difficult to be certain without any context, - something to do with Truth with a capital T as being a development that changes the conceptual framework of mankind.
 
As if capitalism was in some way challenged by the hermetic obscurantism of continental philosophy! The ruling class loves that shit!
 
phildwyer said:
Indeed. It is of course far from coincidental that the same nation that invented capitalism abolished philosophy.

What about Belgium. And, on the other hand, Scotland?
 
Fruitloop said:
As if capitalism was in some way challenged by the hermetic obscurantism of continental philosophy! The ruling class loves that shit!

And who's that? And to whom?:D
 
Random said:
What about Belgium. And, on the other hand, Scotland?

Belgium abolished philosophy? Not in my (Belgian universities) books. Which are only a few years old.
So since when did that happen? A second ago?

salaam
 
Does Belgium really exist?

And why has the subject of belgium come up when I was thinking about this just an hour or so before I posted. ?
 
Demosthenes said:
Does Belgium really exist?

There goes part of my bloodline.
Whihc triggers the question: Do I exist?

And why has the subject of belgium come up when I was thinking about this just an hour or so before I posted. ?

Belgium was in your thoughts? Did that came in a sudden flash or was it something you had to think about long beforehand?

salaam.
 
Aldebaran said:
There goes part of my bloodline.
Whihc triggers the question: Do I exist?



Belgium was in your thoughts? Did that came in a sudden flash or was it something you had to think about long beforehand?

salaam.

No, honestly, I was trying to think of a line to demonstrate the idea that truth or falsity sometimes depends on the domain within which you make the statement, and thought of Belgium exists, as an example, though not a very good one.

Initially, because it's where my family lived from when I was 4 to eighteen, and also because it's the worst swearword in the galaxy according to douglas adams.
 
Demosthenes said:
No, honestly, I was trying to think of a line to demonstrate the idea that truth or falsity sometimes depends on the domain within which you make the statement, and thought of Belgium exists, as an example, though not a very good one.

That can be said from all nation states since the idea of nation state, nationality & hence nationalism entered human history.

Initially, because it's where my family lived from when I was 4 to eighteen, and also because it's the worst swearword in the galaxy according to douglas adams.

Where did you live (and when)?
First time I heard that "Belgium" is a swearword in English. ?

salaam.
 
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