Is Max Mosley a naughty boy then?

[DotCommunist]

hmm, no but deffo Dame Judy for Mrs. Mosely.

 

[monsterbunny]

I so hope he wins his case. I despise the NOTW with a passion.

 

[girasol]

Consenting adults behind closed doors? none of my business.

^^^ This is what I think.

Poor bastard. Unless he deserves this for some other reason? I never heard about him...

Apart from this, has he done anything else?

p.s. It's possible that his wife knew about, or didn't want to know about it...

Also, having a nazi for a father must be quite a headfuck!

 

[liquidlunch]

a tad embarressing for the bloke,fucken funny for me,NOTW should be burnt to the ground.
Adult fun for some in private should never be taken outside closed doors

 

[Badgers]

Farce...
The court case could go either way though.
Never been the biggest fan of Max, he was 'naughty' but the word Nazi was possibly thrown out a bit too quick.

Wonder what would have been said if it was Lewis Hamilton?

 

[editor]

Having Oswald Mosely for a father may well make you want to explore the very dark sides of what his dad was involved in.

That's total speculation.

I couldn't give a fuck what consenting adults get up to in their privacy of their own homes so long as no-one's getting hurt against their will, no one's being exploited and no one's being forced to do things they don't want to. It's the business of the adults involved and no one else.

It is of zero public interest and the only interest the NOTW has in this case is the possibility of sliming up sleazy spreads for their sleazy paper.

 

[QueenOfGoths]

That's total speculation.

I couldn't give a fuck what consenting adults get up to in their privacy of their own homes so long as no-one's getting hurt against their will, no one's being exploited and no one's being forced to do things they don't want to. It's the business of the adults involved and no one else.

It is of zero public interest and the only interest the NOTW has in this case is the possibility of sliming up sleazy spreads for their sleazy paper.

Well said. It is nobody's business but the people invoved.

 

[Jessiedog]

Just found out a mate of mine, but for it not fitting in her schedule, might have been one of the girls there and knows most of the girls who were! She's certainly not a hooker (just makes good money on the side from spanking scenarios, no sex)

Really?



What euphemism would you prefer for someone offering "spanking scenarios" to clients?

Escort?

Call girl?

Dominatrix?

S&M Mistress?

Does someone offering "manual stimulation services" not qualify as a prostitute simply because there is no "sex"?

and neither are the other girls, I imagine.

I don't remember anyone denying that sex was involved.



Woof

 

[Louloubelle]

I think he was set up

I don't think it was a Nazi themed thing at all

even if it was a Nazi themed orgy / romp / whatever who cares?

It's playing so it's not real Nazis

People pretend all kind of things when they're having sex. being tied up and forced to have sex against their will is pretty common fantasy that people act out but it's not the same as real rape. Obviously

 

[Cloo]

Really?



What euphemism would you prefer for someone offering "spanking scenarios" to clients?

Escort?

Call girl?

Dominatrix?

S&M Mistress?

Does someone offering "manual stimulation services" not qualify as a prostitute simply because there is no "sex"?

I'd say my mate is a 'sex worker', but she definitely isn't a prostitute. Her services are of a sexual nature, but she doesn't have sex or offer 'manual stumulation' with clients. The lines of what is or isn't done are pretty damn well defined in the S&M world! Obviously, some sex workers will blur the line, or offer S&M services and sex, but there are quite a lot out there who don't.

I don't think anyone did say sex was involved in the Moseley scenario, but at the same time they referred to it as an 'orgy' involving 'prostitutes' which I think is just a lazy tabloid way of dealing with these kind of interactions as they don't have the time/understanding/inclination to explain how BDSM scenarios work. They just work with the standard assumption that if there's kinkiness, there must be sex as well, and in fact that's by no means always the case.

 

[chico enrico]

That's total speculation.

I couldn't give a fuck what consenting adults get up to in their privacy of their own homes so long as no-one's getting hurt against their will, no one's being exploited and no one's being forced to do things they don't want to. It's the business of the adults involved and no one else.

It is of zero public interest and the only interest the NOTW has in this case is the possibility of sliming up sleazy spreads for their sleazy paper.

yea, but it's funny though and everybody likes a laugh at someone else's expense. especially if they're rich.

 

[chico enrico]

I'd say my mate is a 'sex worker', but she definitely isn't a prostitute. Her services are of a sexual nature, but she doesn't have sex or offer 'manual stumulation' with clients.

if that was the criteria by which prostitution was defined there wouldn't be many 'prostitutes'.

folk go to prozzers for what they can't get elsewhere, whether it's a cuddle and a hug or an enema and a fisting.

 

[Gingerman]

If Mosley was a moralising pol I'd have no problem with him being exposed but he is'nt so hes perfectly entitled to keep his private life private

 

[aylee]

I hope he wins this case, because it may stymie some of the worst excesses of the media in this country.

 

[chico enrico]

If Mosley was a moralising pol I'd have no problem with him being exposed but he is'nt so hes perfectly entitled to keep his private life private

why? his 'private life' = my chuckles over the coffee and croissants.

if i had his money i'd probably do the same as he does (well, maybe not quite in this case) but i ain't so i'm jealous and he and his 'privacy' and 'consenting adults' can get to fuck.

also, motor-racing is shit.

 

[Edie]

I know what you're all saying, about what adults do in private and with consent being their own business but...

tbh I'm not too comfortable thinking a public figure gets a hard on fantasising about the mass murder of people. I'm not too sure that's a trait I'd look for, generally.

 

[chico enrico]

Indeed. And i doubt Mr Mosely will be adding that to the 'personal description' segment in his CV when he applies for his next post.

don't personally understand why anyone gives a flying fuck what happens to rich folk anyway.

 

[Ceej]

I think he was set up

I don't think it was a Nazi themed thing at all

even if it was a Nazi themed orgy / romp / whatever who cares?

It's playing so it's not real Nazis

People pretend all kind of things when they're having sex. being tied up and forced to have sex against their will is pretty common fantasy that people act out but it's not the same as real rape. Obviously

Ditto. Fantasies are just that - fantasies. Unsavory or not, that's all they are, playing games.

 

[cfz]

Ultimately this case boils down to free expression - the fundamental human right that is the most important.

If you or I had attended the orgy, why should we not be allowed to recount what happened there?

 

[Maggot]

I know what you're all saying, about what adults do in private and with consent being their own business but...

tbh I'm not too comfortable thinking a public figure gets a hard on fantasising about the mass murder of people. I'm not too sure that's a trait I'd look for, generally.

Eh?

Where did you get that idea from? No-one has claimed he gets turned on by mass murder. There was no Nazi theme to the session, and even if there was, it certainly doesn't mean he supported their ideology.

 

[untethered]

Mr Mosley has won £60,000 damages from the News of the World:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7523034.stm

 

[Dj TAB]

....just read the judgement, makes for an interesting read overall.

 

[Jessiedog]

....just read the judgement, makes for an interesting read overall.

It does.


I particularly enjoyed the comparison applied and the language the judge used when exploring the proportionality of an invasion of privacy on the grounds that a crime may be being committed on private premises.

The question has to be asked whether it will always be an automatic defence to intrusive journalism that a crime was being committed on private property, however technical or trivial. Would it justify installing a camera in someone’s home, for example, in order to catch him or her smoking a spliff? Surely not. There must be some limits and, even in more serious cases, any such intrusion should be no more than is proportionate.

Woof

 

[Badger Kitten]

Mr Thurlbeck also relied upon the fact that the Claimant was “shaved”. Concentration camp inmates were also shaved. Yet, as Mr Price pointed out, they had their heads shaved. The Claimant, for reasons best known to himself, enjoyed having his bottom shaved – apparently for its own sake rather than because of any supposed Nazi connotation. He explained to me that while this service was being performed he was (no doubt unwisely) “shaking with laughter”. I naturally could not check from the DVD, as it was not his face that was on display.

That is a fantastically funny, humane and clever judgement. Hats off to that Judge.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Oops



Did Max Mosley mislead the High Court over his involvement with a racist political leaflet dating back decades?

Max Mosley Confronted By Cathy Newman Over 'Racist Leaflet' During Extraordinary Interview

Max Mosley accused by Daily Mail of publishing racist leaflet in 1960s

Max Mosley's car crash interview with Channel 4 | Daily Mail Online

 

[salem]

I was surprised to hear that he is in bed with Tom Wataon who said of Max - “I’m proud to call Max Mosley a friend and I’m delighted he has made a financial contribution to Labour"

WTF is he thinking? That's going to bite him and Labour hard.

 

[Reiabuzz]

That c4 interview is excruciating.

Anyway, so he lied under oath. What happens now?

 

[salem]

That is an incredibly offensive suggestion, how dare you say that!

(btw I've been working with a few very posh people recently and it's amazing how they have a few mannerisms, phrases and utterly unwavering confidence that to the layperson come across as intelligent but after a bit of time they end up repeating and looping and you realise that lots of these big words have absolutely no substance!)

 

[Shirl]

Shouldn't this thread be in politics or somewhere? I don't think it belongs in here. editor

 

[Pickman's model]

That is an incredibly offensive suggestion, how dare you say that!

(btw I've been working with a few very posh people recently and it's amazing how they have far a few mannerisms, phrases and utterly unwavering confidence that to the layperson come across as intelligent but after a bit of time they end up repeating and looping and you realise that lots of these big words have absolutely no substance!)

indubitably