littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
So the Inuit aren't included in this debate then?
Is it wrong to eat meat?
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skyscraper101
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I think it'll be ok if the animal died of natural causes.
Recycling and all that.
Recycling and all that.
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hiraethified
It's entirely natural to eat meat, but ignoring the plight of your food source through over-hunting, over-fishing, genetic fiddling about, hormone dabbling and dreadful conditions would seem a tad short sighted.
fogbat
The Talibum
They are, however, allowed to suffocate to death.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
So?
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
fogbat
The Talibum
It's a bit inhumane, isn't it? If that was the method used in slaughterhouses, people'd be up in arms.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
It's only a fish though innit.
kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Fucks sake, we can't even treat people properly around most of the world, why all the fussing about fish and chickens...
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
Actually arable farming is significantly more damaging unless it's organic. All those pesticides, fertilisers going into the soil plus veg use up the goodness in the soil more quickly.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
That's how I feel most of the time - I can't quite stop myself thinking that they're only animals, so tuck in
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hiraethified
You don't care about the health of the things you eat?
sleaterkinney
Well-Known Member
I do, I wouldn't buy factory farmed food, but that doesn't stop you eating meat.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
I do sometimes, but I happily eat foie gras. I'm not exactly consistent in my approach to meat-eating
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kyser_soze
Hawking's Angry Eyebrow
Yeah, but it's fucking lush.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
It's fucking delicious - don't think I don't appreciate the hard work that goes into it
Kanda
Diving wanker
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
To be absolutely honest and relatively speaking, I don't really 'care', no. I don't think it's a great idea to keep animals in factory farms and cruelty is definitely a 'bad thing'. I try and avoid buying intensively reared meat, but that's more to do with taste - I won't buy battery chickens cos they're pretty rank). On a scale of 1 to 10 of things that I really care about though animal welfare is a 1 and eating meat is a 3, so eating meat wins.
I have other things I worry about more, rightly or wrongly.
fogbat
The Talibum
Wasn't meant as a criticism as such, just that I don't think eating fish is any better "ethically" than eating land animals.
inflatable jesus
I used to be carried in the arms of cheerleaders
I'm not sure that I understand or agree with this.
Are you suggesting that Lions eating gazelles would be wrong if they had access to non-meat alternatives?
I think these things are easy to talk about. Pro-life activists think the same thing about the unborn and in my opinion, for largely the same reasons.
I mean, don't get me wrong. It could happen. A few millenia ago a lot us would have struggled to accept people from outside the village as human. I think the moral circle is fairly expandable. Fruitarians are a decent example of how far you can stretch it if you're so inclined. I just think that humanity is probably the best natural border for our ethical considerations.
I probably could be persuaded on the environmental and health angles though. That has obvious ramifications for me and my fellow humans.
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
I'm not sure any more, but recently, Urban has had me salivating first over corned beef and Fray Bentos pies, and now faggots - I nearly succumbed at the farmer's market and ate a huge lump of Brie instead 
gentlegreen
I hummus, therefore I am ...
I'm basically not happy about eating something I'm not prepared to kill.
I don't think it's wrong to eat meat at all, I agree that some of the conditions animals are kept in are terrible but I still have little problem eating meat as far as I see it a balanced diet of meat, veg and fruit is the best way to go.
I dislike the fact that because I eat meat I'm now morally inferior to those who don't, not all vegetarians think like this but a few of them do. I hate anyone who tries to make their position the moral high ground just to sneer at others for not following what is essentially a personal dietary choice.
I dislike the fact that because I eat meat I'm now morally inferior to those who don't, not all vegetarians think like this but a few of them do. I hate anyone who tries to make their position the moral high ground just to sneer at others for not following what is essentially a personal dietary choice.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
Don't then. If you feel queasy about it you shouldn't be eating meat.
Agree, it's all about a personal dietary choice, and your body will let you know what you need, and what you don't need.
fogbat
The Talibum
Not really.
Your body will generally be looking to fatten you up, for when the mammoth and roots supply isn't so good.
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