stdPikachu
Plughole in bathtub curve
Hasn't Opera had that feature for about four years?
Is it just me, or does Opera seem to be getting LESS compatible?
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Hasn't Opera had that feature for about four years?
mattie
missing in inaction
Yep, FF getting a bit temperamental on my machine. The real fucker is that it locks up everything and I have to reset the PC.
There's mention of FF 3 on this thread, checked the website and it's still 2. What gives? Is there a beta available from somewhere else? I may try it, as I'm restarting at least 5 times a day now - all due to FF. Football365 seems to cause it all sorts of bother.
dogmatique
merde alors
Just google Firefox 3 beta...
dogmatique
merde alors
Yep, my point being that Firefox's introduction of it means there's less reason for me to stick with Opera.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
Am I just being thick or is much easier to organise your favorites in FF?
Does anyone else find a weird problem logging into hotmail with opera. First time I type the password it tells me its wrong. Even if I copy and paste it it tells me its wrong first time and lets me in the second. I can't use the new view for the inbox with opera, but I see that as a bonus rather then a problem.
Does anyone else find a weird problem logging into hotmail with opera. First time I type the password it tells me its wrong. Even if I copy and paste it it tells me its wrong first time and lets me in the second. I can't use the new view for the inbox with opera, but I see that as a bonus rather then a problem.
mattie
missing in inaction
Ah, mis-read - didn't know it was definitely still beta. That' what happens when I skim-read.
stdPikachu
Plughole in bathtub curve
Definitely Opera's fault, because MS doesn't have a track record of artificially sabotaging their sites in order to make competing browsers look bad. B0rk!
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
So why doesn't firefox do it then? 
subversplat
writer of wrongs
You can create a page based on what browser someone is using - it's all given in the HTTP header.So why doesn't firefox do it then?
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
But why would you do it just for one browser and not another? And why something as pointless as having to type the password twice. I can understand them wanting to keep the outlook style inbox for explorer, but the password? Still
newme
Giant in Pastyland now
Im using Opera, have done pretty much since I found it. Firefox Ive tried on numerous occasions and never found it to actually fulfil all the things I was able to straight from installation on Opera, plus its a web browser, I dont expect to have to spend time researching what fucking addons I need to get for it just to make it work like I want it to.
Never liked the UI really either and things work the wrong way round in some places, seem to have to work a lot harder to receive the same functionality as Opera but with less useability as an added extra. Annoying since I really do want to like it, was running both for quite a while to help cope with the massive amount of loaded pages I seem to accumulate. Operas zoom always seemed a lot better without skewing the pages into an unreadable or off-frame mess., which helps a lot on a widescreen.
Never liked the UI really either and things work the wrong way round in some places, seem to have to work a lot harder to receive the same functionality as Opera but with less useability as an added extra. Annoying since I really do want to like it, was running both for quite a while to help cope with the massive amount of loaded pages I seem to accumulate. Operas zoom always seemed a lot better without skewing the pages into an unreadable or off-frame mess., which helps a lot on a widescreen.
dogmatique
merde alors
Still pining for Opera a bit, but have been using Firefox 2.0 at home and 3.0 at work for the last few days.
Good things? Adblock Plus. Definately. Always been missing from Opera, and I've become more and more distracted by ads recently as the animated banners become more intrusive.
Negatives? Relatively few - better handling of downloads, near 100% compatability with the sites I've visited - much higher than Opera.
Miss Paste and Go.
Also you can't just drag a tab out onto the desktop to get a new window - in Opera you can drag a tab out and it will act as a single page and keep playing multimedia or display whatever as it does within Opera. Perfect for watching something in one / using it for reference, whilst browsing elsewhere.
In Firefox it just drops a shortcut onto the desktop.
Scrolling in Firefox is definately, yet only slightly more jerky than in Opera, which is very very smooth. For someone who spends all day scrolling down long long lists and sites this is annoying visually, and was the main reason for keeping with Opera a couple of years ago.
Now much better.
Firefox 3 - almost perfect, though no paste and go still, plus as it's still a beta, the important (for me) plug in to reduce tab size when you have many windows open, and a new tab button doesn't work with it - scrolling left and right to see tabs is unnecessarily infuriating. I want them all at the top at the same time. Can't understand why this is still overlooked in favour of left-right scroll.
So - after much flip-flopping in the last two weeks I have no choice but to stick with Firefox - until Opera addresses and fixes it's major issues.
I'm sure you're all really pleased and interested that I've made a decision of sorts.
Good things? Adblock Plus. Definately. Always been missing from Opera, and I've become more and more distracted by ads recently as the animated banners become more intrusive.
Negatives? Relatively few - better handling of downloads, near 100% compatability with the sites I've visited - much higher than Opera.
Miss Paste and Go.
Also you can't just drag a tab out onto the desktop to get a new window - in Opera you can drag a tab out and it will act as a single page and keep playing multimedia or display whatever as it does within Opera. Perfect for watching something in one / using it for reference, whilst browsing elsewhere.
In Firefox it just drops a shortcut onto the desktop.
Scrolling in Firefox is definately, yet only slightly more jerky than in Opera, which is very very smooth. For someone who spends all day scrolling down long long lists and sites this is annoying visually, and was the main reason for keeping with Opera a couple of years ago.
Now much better.
Firefox 3 - almost perfect, though no paste and go still, plus as it's still a beta, the important (for me) plug in to reduce tab size when you have many windows open, and a new tab button doesn't work with it - scrolling left and right to see tabs is unnecessarily infuriating. I want them all at the top at the same time. Can't understand why this is still overlooked in favour of left-right scroll.
So - after much flip-flopping in the last two weeks I have no choice but to stick with Firefox - until Opera addresses and fixes it's major issues.
I'm sure you're all really pleased and interested that I've made a decision of sorts.
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
This thread has made me give firefox another go. Since it last updated itself it hasn't crashed which means I'll consider continuing to use it (opera never did).
The adblock is superb and with the amount of time I spend on forums, the spell check is very handy. However it has a bug that frequently adds the last word you corrected to the right click menu when on a different web page, which can be annoying. Sites are more compatible which is a definite bonus.
What I'm really missing is my shortcuts I've got used to, right mouse button and mouse wheel to get a list of tabs and scroll down them and ctr-tab to switch to the last used tab.
Not on 3 yet, still using 2.0.0.14
The adblock is superb and with the amount of time I spend on forums, the spell check is very handy. However it has a bug that frequently adds the last word you corrected to the right click menu when on a different web page, which can be annoying. Sites are more compatible which is a definite bonus.
What I'm really missing is my shortcuts I've got used to, right mouse button and mouse wheel to get a list of tabs and scroll down them and ctr-tab to switch to the last used tab.
Not on 3 yet, still using 2.0.0.14
in Opera annoying things happen when online shopping, pages won't work such as NatWest security checker.
Problem is I often forget which sites do and don't work.
Then went it doesn't I have to go into IE and fill out forms all over again.....
getting pissed off with it and am thinking of trying FF. But there is something about opera that keeps me with it
Problem is I often forget which sites do and don't work.
Then went it doesn't I have to go into IE and fill out forms all over again.....
getting pissed off with it and am thinking of trying FF. But there is something about opera that keeps me with it
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
this is stupidity though you are blaming shell for you putting desiel in a petrol car...
dogmatique
merde alors
No, I just want to look at whatever site I want. If there's a browser that will do this, I'll use it. Simple, and not at all stupid.
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
you're alright jack bugger the rest of the world or their access right... has it every occured to you that if the site yu wanted to look at actually catered for the disablled it might be better?
nah fuck that fuck everyone else as long as you're alright....
stupid senitment really...
dogmatique
merde alors
Erm, I don't build websites, and I don't build browsers. I am a consumer. Your argument is ridiculous.
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
no you still owe it to your consumer habits to be an informed active consumer rather than a passive one...
dogmatique
merde alors
Yep, and my informed consumer choice is to (currently) use Firefox. That may change once every crappy coder suddenly decides to learn every standard going and play nicely.
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