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Is Elon Musk the greatest visionary or the greatest snake oil salesman of our age?

coley

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Probably, but if you're making cheese you're going to need a board. Having it just off a plate would be barbaric.
You live in North London I take it? Around here eating off boards is still the norm, we haven't got around to replacing boards with plates and then evolving to eating off artesian designed boards:p:D
 

Raheem

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You live in North London I take it? Around here eating off boards is still the norm, we haven't got around to replacing boards with plates and then evolving to eating off artesian designed boards:p:D
No, I don't live in North London. But it's easy to pretend you own a cheese board if you're on the internet. And then to pretend you don't.
 

coley

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No, I don't live in North London. But it's easy to pretend you own a cheese board if you're on the internet. And then to pretend you don't.
You obviously got the 'North London' reference, but what is the cost of the average cheeseboard, 3mill or 80 mil, and do we actually need to have as many cheeseboards, perhaps less boards and a better selection of cheese?
 

phillm

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No, I don't live in North London. But it's easy to pretend you own a cheese board if you're on the internet. And then to pretend you don't.
Is slate still 'in' ? Or is it all boards now ? No doubt a brief sojourn to Pop Brixton would elucidate this thorny issue.
 

tim

EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
amazing what you can achieve with thousands of slave labourers, guns , whips and threat of death.



Yes, a partnership between Elon and Kim Jong-Un is surely a on the cards at some point in the future. Those rockets would would really go off with a bang.
 

lefteri

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Elon Musk releases details of plan to colonise Mars – here's what a planetary expert thinks

Elon Musk just has to be a time traveller, coming back from the future, with good knowledge of what the future holds and therefore a significant advantage over the rest of us.
For a rocket scientist his maths is a little suspect:

Each will be designed to take 100 people and to launch 1,000 such ships in the space of 40 to 100 years, enabling a million people to leave Earth.
 

Nylock

I hate 'these days'...
Elon musk worries me.
He reminds me of the way I played the computer game series Civilisation

I'd spend the entire game being nice to everyone one and rushing my science.
As soon as I got nuclear weapons, I'd blow everything up and give up on the game.

We are surely doomed.
1. Rush for full Communism
2. Develop Nukes
3. Invade everything
4. Global Communist State - Domination Victory

Works every time :D
 

NoXion

Keep an eye out for diamonds
In its current state, Mars would be settled with environmentally sealed habitats, and likewise any humans wandering outside on its surface would be suited up. This means that decontamination procedures would apply to personnel and equipment returning from the Martian environment, as well as to personnel and equipment entering it (which is what should be done until the question of native life has been settled).

This article goes into more detail. My take is that the presence of perchlorates on Mars is an additional complication, but not a show stopper. It's also kind of balanced by the fact that this means there's effectively a lot of potential rocket fuel on Mars.
 

phillm

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In its current state, Mars would be settled with environmentally sealed habitats, and likewise any humans wandering outside on its surface would be suited up. This means that decontamination procedures would apply to personnel and equipment returning from the Martian environment, as well as to personnel and equipment entering it (which is what should be done until the question of native life has been settled).

This article goes into more detail. My take is that the presence of perchlorates on Mars is an additional complication, but not a show stopper. It's also kind of balanced by the fact that this means there's effectively a lot of potential rocket fuel on Mars.
Well that's sorted then - I'll keep winter 2036 free for a potential foray. Though I may be dead by then so that could complicate matters.

 

NoXion

Keep an eye out for diamonds
Well that's sorted then - I'll keep winter 2036 free for a potential foray. Though I may be dead by then so that could complicate matters.

Relatively speaking, you understand. If there are the resources of a major state behind the effort. Personally I think Musk will run out of money before reaching Mars.
 

phillm

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Relatively speaking, you understand. If there are the resources of a major state behind the effort. Personally I think Musk will run out of money before reaching Mars.
So at best optomistic guess in the next hundred years out of a global population of 10 billion (10000000000) lets say tops 100 could go to Mars - so that's 99.999999 % of people who won't be going. So why should we the many care about the infitesimal few ?
 

NoXion

Keep an eye out for diamonds
So at best optomistic guess in the next hundred years out of a global population of 10 billion (10000000000) lets say tops 100 could go to Mars - so that's 99.999999 % of people who won't be going. So why should we the many care about the infitesimal few ?
Because the many won't get to Mars without the few reaching it first. Learn to walk before learning to run, so to speak. If it take multiple generations for large-scale settlement of Mars to happen? There are and have been multi-generational projects here on Earth.
 
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