Is Brexit actually going to happen?

Discussion in 'UK politics, current affairs and news' started by Kaka Tim, Jun 27, 2016.

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Will we have a brexit?

  1. Yes - A fully independant Britain making its own way in the world (apart from scotland).

    17.9%
  2. A Semi-Detached Norway type deal

    33.5%
  3. No - 2nd referendum and/or face saving fudge to let us slink back in feeling a bit fucking stupid

    48.6%
  1. Terry Manners

    Terry Manners Start from the outside and move in.

    I’ve never heard a single real Brexit voter go on about passport colour it seems to be purely a Media obsession from both sides of the aisle.
     
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  2. Santino

    Santino lovelier than lovely

    This policy could determine older voters more than younger voters. If it dents the Tory turnout significantly then it would be dropped pretty sharpish.

    Or I suppose they might introduce free ID for 60+ people. It'd still be a hassle though.
     
  3. mojo pixy

    mojo pixy unquantifiable hazards

    Even the media don't care, it's just a stick for them to stir the shit with.
     
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  4. bemused

    bemused Well-Known Member

    The only complaint I've hread about passports is why aren't they an app yet.
     
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  5. Bahnhof Strasse

    Bahnhof Strasse Free the Sepsis Six!

    There is no legal requirement to have a passport to travel. Of course try travelling without one and I imagine it will be a tad tiresome. Similar to women never been banned from driving in Saudi, they just can’t have a driving license.
     
  6. SaskiaJayne

    SaskiaJayne Rural Guerrilla

    I recall a bloke burnt his passport & declared himself a citizen of the world. Then he wrote a book about his valiant attempts to travel the world without a passport. I think he managed it but got banged up a few times. :D
     
  7. BemusedbyLife

    BemusedbyLife Well-Known Member

    I've been to France and back without showing my passport either way, (on a coach aboard the ferry), It will be interesting to see how things happen after Brexit, When I went to Ireland, I had to show it at Dublin Airport even though there is supposed to be a free travel area, coming back to East Mids, no-one asked to see it but every single flight I've taken, I've had to show it with the ticket.
    I've never taken an internal UK flight does anyone know what you have to show for that?
     
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  8. mojo pixy

    mojo pixy unquantifiable hazards

    Airport Security, they call it. Backed by anti-terror legislation.
     
  9. A380

    A380 How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?

    EasyJet only accept passports or full, not provisional driving licences for internal UK flights. They used to take other photo ID, but not anymore.
     
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  10. SaskiaJayne

    SaskiaJayne Rural Guerrilla

    Until a couple of yrs ago passport was not required to leave the UK only for entry. You could go out through Eurotunnel through auto checkin & drive onto train without showing passport unless French immigration which is at UK end of both tunnel & Dover port looked at it & mostly they could not be arsed.

    Then that changed & law required record of all those leaving UK. It was terrorist related, I think. So now when you make ferry or tunnel booking you have to declare all passengers & give passport details & also French immigration usually check passport as well. At channel ports checks going in & out of country have become much more intrusive in last couple of yrs but I think it is more terrorist related than brexit.
     
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  11. Bahnhof Strasse

    Bahnhof Strasse Free the Sepsis Six!

    BA doesn’t require photo id for domestic/Ireland flights, Ryanair & Easyjet do.
     
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  12. teqniq

    teqniq DisMembered

    Could also go in 'Tory death spiral'

    Top Government adviser quits over Brexit and accuses Theresa May of being 'voice of Ukip'

     
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  13. bimble

    bimble noisy but small

    Lord Adonis? Good online dating name but pics are a bit disappointing.
     
  14. SpackleFrog

    SpackleFrog Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts

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  15. SaskiaJayne

    SaskiaJayne Rural Guerrilla

    He is now free to call for brexit to be reversed along with the likes of Blair/Heseltine/Cable etc who are all well known enough to be given all the space they might ask for in the mainstream media. Whether anybody will listen is another matter.
     
  16. coley

    coley Well-Known Member

    SWMBOd started her nursing career as a 'cadet' at 15,which involved most of what you describe, a a mixture of 'hands on nursing, understudying and getting your hands dirty with a fair amount of studying in the "school of nursing'
    In 35 years of marriage the only time I have heard her swear, was when discussing the new 'approach to nursing'
    But, the same disasters appear in the military and police,where the road to fast promotion seems to be a mediocre university degree and a willingness to defend the deterioration in the provision of services by supporting the Govt position.
    The current boss of the Met is a classical example.
     
  17. pocketscience

    pocketscience Well-Known Member

    No, you've got it the wrong way around again. My "generlaisations" are based on 3 decades of first hand experience. The anecdote I told of saxony was a microcosmic example from a regional inhabitant highlighting actual racism. You'd label that inhabitant a racist for bringing it up.
    With all due respect, and I can understand how you might come to such an opinion, but I've got infinitely more experience than you to make judgment here.
    very possible but I stand by what I said
    I thought I'd made it quire clear beforehand, they and many other germans have been the amongst the reasons (i.e convinced me) to believe what I wrote.
    Why? Where are the limits? If I were to say that I think the majority of British (at least in recent years) tend to be superficial and have an overestimation of their own self importance, would you call me racist?
    See quote above.
    So you don't agree with a collective summary of any group of individuals that have the same traits? Don't forget it was in context to the question on whether there's a german will to power. I made my case for discussion offering some reasoning as to why it may be the case, based in my opinion, on the political will of the electorate (Individuals) If you want to stifle such discussion, then you too need to be very careful.
    I'm not needing to get out of anything you might be dreaming about putting me in, you mug. So fuck off with this patronising shit. You don't know half of it.
     
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  18. pocketscience

    pocketscience Well-Known Member

    really? I don't know why I'm bothering engaging with you, you muppet :confused::facepalm:
     
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  19. Doppelgänger

    Doppelgänger There's only one of me!

  20. William of Walworth

    William of Walworth Festographer

    Doppelgänger : No it doesn't.

    Article above is dated 23rd December (not today! :hmm: ).

    But in any case, all that's said in it is already fairly familar and not all that unknown.

    And even Remainers like me don't give a fuck about passport colour anyway.

    I also very much doubt whether any Brexiters (other than the most barking ones), give a fuck either.
     
  21. Doppelgänger

    Doppelgänger There's only one of me!

    Since no one else referenced it I thought it was my duty ;)

    I don't give two hoots about the colour either, but it seems important enough to make the national press, so someone must be reading...
     
  22. MightyTibberton

    MightyTibberton Well-Known Member

    The problem with the binary nature of the referendum is this shoving of so many reasons into two big tents.

    There must be some people who care about blue passports I guess. Years back I can remember furious letters in my local paper because a council building was flying an EU flag (Hitler couldn't bring down the Union flag, but... sort of stuff!)

    It's mad to slander all Leave voters as nostalgic Little Englanders, but, and mostly within UKIP probably I reckon, there is a decent number who are.

    I SAW a poll the other day that reported over half of Leave voters wanted to bring back the death penalty, and I've had a bit of personal experience of older voters who do, broadly, just think that things were better in the past and we should go back to those days.

    Even some of the so-called intellectual heavyweights of Brexit are self-consciously and obviously retro. Rees Mogg and Garage are and Daniel Hannan even styles himself as an Old Whig, a political party that died in the 19th century!
     
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  23. gosub

    gosub ~#

    \while it is a non issue, I'd rather have the size and hard back nature of the old one back rather than colour issues, felt more official and harder to lose
     
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  24. 2hats

    2hats

    What colour should the eventual phone app/contactless card/dooberry be?
     
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  25. gosub

    gosub ~#

    Can't see ICAO wearing that, whole point of regulationg is you have something than can be read by immigration of Metropolis and and a shack in Deepest Darkest Puru
     
  26. MightyTibberton

    MightyTibberton Well-Known Member

    Sorry, I'm on a phone and not typing well and ended up rambling there!

    I meant also to say that people do vote for all sorts of reasons. I know personally a couple of Lexit voters, one Leave voter who says it was about red tape, two who told me it was about the expense of the EU, one who is a racist, and online I was told by one an that it was all about Free Movement, and one who was a big Hannan fanboy and echoed his global free trade stuff.

    And some people vote for no very good reason at all. There was a bit of a fuss about a viral clip of a French voter saying she was voting for Le Pen because, well, fuck it!

    Of course, if you suggest for one minute that voters don't always act without at least great common sense then you're damned as a sneering elitist. But I think it's certainly true that a lot of people are not that interested in politics and the vast majority of our most popular printed media is slanted carp.
     
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  27. coley

    coley Well-Known Member

    Fair do's, given the way the world is going, iris identification is going to replace passports in the near future, and if you have brown eyes, the system is going to make your world turn blue
     
  28. coley

    coley Well-Known Member

    "Most of the printed media is "slanted Carp"
    True, they are a fishy lot.
    And most of the pro EU lot, print a load of 'codswallop'
    And most financial bodies go fishing for bad news stories and end up with 'empty nets'
     
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  29. 2hats

    2hats

    Not now. But my point was - it'll change at some future time anyway.
     
  30. MightyTibberton

    MightyTibberton Well-Known Member

    You put me in my placid without even having to flex your mussels!
     

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