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Is Boris going to stop our festivals?

You watch. He'll come out and claim that he's not racist, because he's a pure Anglo-Saxon...but believes "his kind"..erm sorry "our kind" has a flawed culture that mustn't be celebrated in any kind of overt way.
Pure anglo-saxon... with just a dash of viking for good measure?

I'm not even English. Being born in the West Country, I'd class myself as Wessex .. but there's never a box in the forms for that, so I always end up as 'other white'.
 
if 'our' culture means celebrating hundreds of years of genocide, imperialism and slavery then no i'm not interested

if it means real ale, footy and diversity then fill yer boots

ill still be at the carnival though, the musics better
 
How often do you spend thinking about your identity, aj? And why?

Not a lot, to be perfectly honest. I know I'm not 'at home' in London, being far more attracted to rural living than the city, but apart from that (and trying to work out what some of the odd stuff on sale down Brixton Market is) it isnt' something that I lie awake at night worrying about.
 
because its all he's got

And what else have you got? What do you identify yourself as? How do you define yourself? What boxes do you put yourself in when asked?

Being 'Wessex' is not all there is to me. I have a job, interests, hobbies, music tastes, friends, favourite films, etc etc. Ethnicity is not the sum of my being.
 
if 'our' culture means celebrating hundreds of years of genocide, imperialism and slavery then no i'm not interested

if it means real ale, footy and diversity then fill yer boots

ill still be at the carnival though, the musics better

Smokedout, I believe there is plenty of songs we haven't written about *ALL* of the genocide that went on. But don't worry, it's really, really at the top of the list as far as masses are concerned! :D

Your taste is your taste, but you have to admit, there is sizeable amount of the population, that wants pissed up carnivals with loads of red and white flag waving. Now, people don't mind "open" rules, where everyone can participate, but the clipboard wielding middleclasses can fuck off, if they are going to start pushing diversity for the sake of diversity.
 
youre really advancing your cause as the reasonable voice of the poor oppressed straight, white middle englanders

Oh behave. People like you who run around trying to get people on the defensive just because they want a mental St Georges Day celebration, is enough to send normal people into a foaming mouthed goose-step all the way to Griffin's front door.

I don't think about my identity every day, I to don't see it as my most important attribute, but I do want to celebrate it once a year...in a style that tops St Patricks day, Queens Day, Bastille Day etc.
 
Your taste is your taste, but you have to admit, there is sizeable amount of the population, that wants pissed up carnivals with loads of red and white flag waving. Now, people don't mind "open" rules, where everyone can participate, but the clipboard wielding middleclasses can fuck off, if they are going to start pushing diversity for the sake of diversity.

Didn't they try and ban white flags from the Proms because it was 'too english' or something dumb?
 
Your taste is your taste, but you have to admit, there is sizeable amount of the population, that wants pissed up carnivals with loads of red and white flag waving. Now, people don't mind "open" rules, where everyone can participate, but the clipboard wielding middleclasses can fuck off, if they are going to start pushing diversity for the sake of diversity.

which happens every year including on St Georges day in London, local village fetes across the country and every time england manages to win a football game

why do you have a problem with the sizable proportion of British people who share a different cultural heritage celebrating that as well
 
Oh behave. People like you who run around trying to get people on the defensive just because they want a mental St Georges Day celebration, is enough to send normal people into a foaming mouthed goose-step all the way to Griffin's front door.

why is it that people who say things like that usually turn out to be closer to griffens front room rather than waiting outside his front door
 
which happens every year including on St Georges day in London, local village fetes across the country and every time england manages to win a football game

Read my posts again please. Ta.

why do you have a problem with the sizable proportion of British people who share a different cultural heritage celebrating that as well

I don't.
 
if 'our' culture means celebrating hundreds of years of genocide, imperialism and slavery then no i'm not interested

if it means real ale, footy and diversity then fill yer boots

ill still be at the carnival though, the musics better

agreed.
 
Read my posts again please. Ta.

the proms, the changing of the guard, henley, the boat race, the FA cup, jubilees/coronations etc, the state opening of parliament, wimbledon, the Lord Mayors Parade etc etc etc

plus the many events across the country which celebrate St Georges day

given that there appears to be no shortage of things celebrating english culture than your point is what exactly
 
given that there appears to be no shortage of things celebrating english culture than your point is what exactly

There shouldn't be a shortage, this is England after all.

If you don't like it, there are plenty of other places in the world that would be no doubt willing to accept you as an asylum seeker if our conditions are really that unbearable here.
 
why is it that people who say things like that usually turn out to be closer to griffens front room rather than waiting outside his front door

I can't speak for myself, but perhaps it's got something to do with the fact that he's the chairman of the only party that it is promising to do a better job of promoting St Georges day?

Don't moan at me about people waving flags around Griffin's house, if everyone else is indifferent to St Georges day and isn't prepared to do anything about it.

Anyway, this whole discussion is getting a bit academic, because Boris most probably won't get in the way of any existing events and will promote St Georges day better than Ken did, so everyone is likely to me more happy (including the pair of us).

...besides...I need to keep my blood pressure in check... :o
 
There shouldn't be a shortage, this is England after all.

If you don't like it, there are plenty of other places in the world that would be no doubt willing to accept you as an asylum seeker if our conditions are really that unbearable here.


speak ur branes ajk
 
the proms, the changing of the guard, henley, the boat race, the FA cup, jubilees/coronations etc, the state opening of parliament, wimbledon, the Lord Mayors Parade etc etc etc

plus the many events across the country which celebrate St Georges day

given that there appears to be no shortage of things celebrating english culture than your point is what exactly

Are you for real?

There are plenty of culturally exclusive events in other countries. That doesn't stop them from having a mental national holiday. The masses love a good old fashioned knees up and for that, we need the help of the government to year on year, logistically come up with better celebrations.
 
Right, fuck it I'm off this thread, simply don't have the patience for the sheer level of fucking ignorance displayed by some on it.
 
So ... it's wrong for people to wave the St George's Cross flag because that might be considered racist?

Yet how many times have you seen people wearing Jamaican colours, or having african flags hanging in their cars, or any other item of 'national identity' and nothing gets said about that?

Personally I don't have a problem with that ... but I can't figure out why people have such a hangup over a little piece of red and white cloth.
 
Go to Ireland on St Patricks Day. Go to Holland on Queens day . Go to France on Bastille day. People just want a bit more of a party!

well tell you what why not organise one, in fact if people want it that much im surprised it hasnt happened yet

fucks sake we managed to get tens of thousands of people out to celebrate smoking ganja so surely it should be quite easy for someone to organise something which you say would have this much support
 
Right, fuck it I'm off this thread, simply don't have the patience for the sheer level of fucking ignorance displayed by some on it.

I too have been quite appalled by the level of anti-English racism displayed by some in this discussion.
 
What is so fucking nationalist about wanting St George's day to top everything else? Jesus fucking Christ. You're so insecure and scared that people will suddenly become BNP shocktroopers after getting drunk and high on national pride for one day of the year! But hey, let's all save the celebrations for the day after the big revolution comrade! It's what the masses really want!
what kind of complete loony are you then? fuck me, if that's what's happened when you've had a drink, i'd fuck shoot you, let alone ban you from having fun you fucking numpty shite.
 
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