Is a Welshman a different 'race' to an Englishman?
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Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
On seconds thoughts let's just forget i even posted on a thread like this...
Agent Sparrow
AGENT TRAITOR; fools 8 year olds
Surely its not racist but it is xenophobic?
I feel slightly guilty. Someone sent me a forward today of some quite breathtaking stupidity that was genuinely funny, but unfortunately felt the need to tag it Irish. Shame cos it wasn't neccessary for the joke.
I feel slightly guilty. Someone sent me a forward today of some quite breathtaking stupidity that was genuinely funny, but unfortunately felt the need to tag it Irish. Shame cos it wasn't neccessary for the joke.
holteman
( . Y . )
ok my final take on rasicm
a comment IMO is deemed racist if it is intended in a derogatory manner.
someone who jokes around with coloured friends and calls them certain names can be exceptable if both partys understand its a laugh....i take the piss out my scottish mate and he takes the piss out my brummie accent....we find it funny and acceptable.
if a comment is made to someone with intention to offend or in an inappropriate manner then that is unacceptable.
also you have to take into account social acceptance. if a black guy took the piss out my brummmie accent or call me a brummie twat i wouldnt find that to offensive. if however i was to call him a n*gger or something along the lines it would be alot more so.....this is due to the history and use of the word. Id be using it deliberatly knowing this was going to cause alot of offence and distress for the person.
so in my conclusion though words such as taffy and paddy are offensive to a degree, i wouldnt put them up there with n*gger and bl*ck basterd etc etc
a comment IMO is deemed racist if it is intended in a derogatory manner.
someone who jokes around with coloured friends and calls them certain names can be exceptable if both partys understand its a laugh....i take the piss out my scottish mate and he takes the piss out my brummie accent....we find it funny and acceptable.
if a comment is made to someone with intention to offend or in an inappropriate manner then that is unacceptable.
also you have to take into account social acceptance. if a black guy took the piss out my brummmie accent or call me a brummie twat i wouldnt find that to offensive. if however i was to call him a n*gger or something along the lines it would be alot more so.....this is due to the history and use of the word. Id be using it deliberatly knowing this was going to cause alot of offence and distress for the person.
so in my conclusion though words such as taffy and paddy are offensive to a degree, i wouldnt put them up there with n*gger and bl*ck basterd etc etc
comments bout the welsh please, always the same sneering underneath and soooooo predictable superior attitude 
mwgdrwg
Be a Pisces. Jam.
To answer the original post...I'm not sure if the Welsh and English are a different 'race', but there are genetic differences (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/2076470.stm).
Therefore I'm not sure if abusing a Welshman is technically racist. Racism is the best word for it though, because have you ever heard the word Regionism, or Geneticmakeupism?
Perhaps we should all just develop a sense of humour eh?
Therefore I'm not sure if abusing a Welshman is technically racist. Racism is the best word for it though, because have you ever heard the word Regionism, or Geneticmakeupism?
Perhaps we should all just develop a sense of humour eh?
Agent Sparrow
AGENT TRAITOR; fools 8 year olds
Sorry to repeat, but surely its xenophobia – prejudice towards foreigners.mwgdrwg said:
If someone was to slag off the French or German it would be xenophobic, surely slagging off the Welsh should be classed as the same?
fucthest8
Cool people die horrible, preventable deaths.
To be serious for a sec, not like me I know, but the whole tribalism thing just annoys me. Yes I know it's hardwired into us yes I understand it's all about a sense of belonging yada yada yada ... but surely we're developed enough to at least try to break our programming now?
So much of what I read on here -the whole tiresome fucking chav thing, the whole Welsh/Scottish/Irish/English thing, whatever, just seems to be driven by this need to categorise, subdivide and demonise.
Fucks me right off.
So much of what I read on here -the whole tiresome fucking chav thing, the whole Welsh/Scottish/Irish/English thing, whatever, just seems to be driven by this need to categorise, subdivide and demonise.
Fucks me right off.
Hollis said:
Funky_monks
Neo-Rustic
Agent Sparrow said:
I agree with this. Surely racism and xenophobia are equally abhohrrent though?
Agent Sparrow
AGENT TRAITOR; fools 8 year olds
Of course.Funky_monks said:
But then I'd also say that it carries more weight if the nationals that are being slagged off are from a country who's nationals have been persecuted at the hands of the nationals who are slagging it off.
So even though its still xenophobia not racism, I guess you could possibly argue that English people slagging off the Irish, the Welsh and the Scottish carries more weight than English people slagging off the French....
Possibly...
fucthest8 said:
Spoken like only a true English could say.
fucthest8 said:
So you're not an English then?
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
fucthest8
no, why would i be joking - tribalism might bore you but that post by hollis and yours above bears it out, you feel it ok to make these offhand remarks about thosew pesky 'different' types that live out in the provinces
is fukin typical ingrained superiority
which you can go back and claim as a bit of a joke, hohoho
Maybe fucthest8 would like to bring back the Raj while he's at it....uppity colonials, eh?
ddraig said:fucthest8
no, why would i be joking - tribalism might bore you but that post by hollis and yours above bears it out, you feel it ok to make these offhand remarks about thosew pesky 'different' types that live out in the provinces
is fukin typical ingrained superiority
Bit rich if you ask me. It's not as though the Welsh are some isolated 'race' set off in a distant land. There are bloody loads of us emigrated taffs living all round the UK. and beyond - nearly everyone will have direct experience of Welsh friends and/or acquaintances.
You want tribal - try North vs South London. I reckon you're being a bit oversensitive here bubba - if you genuinely feel 'inferior' because of a few light hearted jibes then I'd be very worried...
