Andy the Don
Wise men say only fools..
Brings back the characters & ties up the loose ends from Trainspotting, but agreed not as good as some of Irvine Welsh's other books..
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Juice Terry
rama lama fa fa fa
At least my broken cocks healed up nicely.
Glue was Bundesliga.
Porn more Rymans League.
Glue was Bundesliga.
Porn more Rymans League.
Dubversion said:
Acid House was his first book wasn't it? Loads of short stories (Disney Matter is one and there's one about a guy turning into a fly and watching his Mum shagging or something) and a longer one at the end.
Anyway, I also think he's bollox.
Unlike Skin, which is a great comic book.
Just to clarify -
'Ecstacy' is the three stories book including the thalidomide one.
'Acid House' is the collection of short stories.
Maribou Stork Nightmares and Filth are his worst novels IMO.
Glue was better. Porno IS a great STORY. It IS also a romp! The ending is funny. It's not the same quality of writing but introducing the protagonists of his two best novels to each other was fun as much as anything else.
'Ecstacy' is the three stories book including the thalidomide one.
'Acid House' is the collection of short stories.
Maribou Stork Nightmares and Filth are his worst novels IMO.
Glue was better. Porno IS a great STORY. It IS also a romp! The ending is funny. It's not the same quality of writing but introducing the protagonists of his two best novels to each other was fun as much as anything else.
EatMoreChips
Fate Amenable To Change
I started it, was disappointed, left it for a few months, then tried again and thought it was excellent.
With Glue, I'm still at the stage of having started and being disappointed, losing the book and not yet having decided whether it's worth retrieving another copy.
With Glue, I'm still at the stage of having started and being disappointed, losing the book and not yet having decided whether it's worth retrieving another copy.
golightly
Actively uneconomic
I loved it at the time. I'm not sure how I'll feel about it if I read it again. I've read Ecstacy, Acid House and Filth. Filth was alright, but they were all disappoiting compared to Trainspotting. I think that's the problem with 'cult' writers. I feel pretty much the same about Jeff Noon.
electrogirl
dignity is overrated
phildwyer said:
Filth is darrrk. I found it lying around the house when I was 15 and started reading it, couldn't put it down but still, I was disturbed.
Grandma Death
Reconfiguring & Reconstructing
I enjoyed Porno but as its already been pointed out-its a mere rehash of familiar Welsh territory.
Maribou Stork Nightmares is by far the best novel he has ever written.
Maribou Stork Nightmares is by far the best novel he has ever written.
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
well, i didn't stick with it. i love this thread though, because i respect and trust the reading tastes of all the people i know on this thread, and to see opinion so divided over the quality of various works is dead interesting.
the writer who initially hit the big time writing in scots dialect is a writer who covers very similar territory to welsh, but without the OTT skin-crawl - james kelman. recommend reading "how late it was, how late" to read a great work, and also to see exactly where welsh got it from.
yak said:
the writer who initially hit the big time writing in scots dialect is a writer who covers very similar territory to welsh, but without the OTT skin-crawl - james kelman. recommend reading "how late it was, how late" to read a great work, and also to see exactly where welsh got it from.
keep it real, go for the pill
I think it depends on what side of the fence you sit. I loved ecstasy and the thalidomide story. But the the first story in the 3 was good as well, faultless work. I did an amazon on james kelman and what the previous poster noted seems to be true. Maribou Stork Nightmares was good and addressed some disturbing facets of society at that time.
Society has change, or we have changed as readers but Welsh's material will live forever.
I think it depends on what side of the fence you sit. I loved ecstasy and the thalidomide story. But the the first story in the 3 was good as well, faultless work. I did an amazon on james kelman and what the previous poster noted seems to be true. Maribou Stork Nightmares was good and addressed some disturbing facets of society at that time.
Society has change, or we have changed as readers but Welsh's material will live forever.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
His only good ones are Trainspotting, Marabou Stork Nightmares and The Acid House - the rest is utter drivel.
Grandma Death said:
I guess it is powerful in parts. Too powerful in a way. The rape is probably the most horific fiction I've read.
Lots of it is boring though. Also, I hate the pissing about with the page format business
Not a patch on Train spotting. Neither are Filth or Porno
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
It's supposed to be horrific - you can't object to it just on those grounds.Onket said:
There's also another level to MSN, in that it can be read as the effects of colonisation. This is a big issue in a lot of his work. If you've ever read anything of say, Frantz Fanon's theories, then you'll see much more in the books. Not that that is compulsory mind, it's just that for me, it's always good to have a deeper analysis of the text.
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