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Irish Government now involved in Rangers 'Famines Song' row

that both teams have a sizable following of sectarian arseholes and this follows from (and maintains) their respective identities, so it's tiresome hearing them whinge about each others sectarianism and bigotry.

Depends on your meaninf of and understanding of sectarianism. Personally i've no problem with Rangers fans singing the Sash, Derry's Walls, UVF/UDA soings etc. Imho they're political, and the Sash is a song about legal political organisation. The authorities whether football or legal have a generalised approach that anything 'Irish' being sung about is sectartian, apart from the fact that's patently bollocks it's also a joke. People are effectively criminalised for having political opinions whether loyalist or republican. The irony of John Reid MP wanting politics out of football is i'm sure you'll agree hilarious.
 
Good to see the Irish government get involved in this vile song while the Scottish press give it both sides are as bad as one another or SFA head Gordon Smith feels Rangers are being 'victimised'. Since Rangers haven't been able to sing their 'sectarian' repertoire over the last few years they have managed to lower themselves to the level of a snakes belly with songs such as 'Big Jock Knew' and their latest ditty 'The Famines Over, Why don't you go home?' Which are probably worse and viler than 'the billy boys'



http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7617518.stm


Here is the Scotland Today report look at Jack McConnell opportunistic attemplts using this song to slam the SNP on anti-sectarianism.



Meanwhile The Rangers Supporters Trust(most of whom are prominent Follow Follow Members) show themselves up for the scum that they are. I wonder if Mark Dingwall is still campaigning for Mandela to e hung?



and the song in question:


I thought this song was instrumental only, or something.:confused:
 
Presumably the chorus is sung to the tune of Sloop John B?

I might sing it to the missus tonight, see what her reaction is.
 
the only thing worse than local nationalists/loyalists are the dickheads across the water who embrace the same crap.

Aye a bit like those Scottish cunts who came over here and polluted our Irish culture with their loyalist crap, why don't they fuck off back where they came from? :rolleyes:

Life's more complicated than that you eejit.
 
Castle Greyskull is where Celtic live, it's a double-edged sword.

The home of the good guys then. :D;):cool:

Presumably the chorus is sung to the tune of Sloop John B?

Yeah, and it's the first song i've noticed that has raise such an angry response. Even guys I know who don't get too anim,ated are pissed off with this one. Perhaps it's the combination of racism, xenophobia, religious bigotry and sectarian hatred all rolled into one song.
 
Ahh well when Alex Salmond gets Scotlands independence voted for, the SNP gov can then start footing the bill the next time Rangers decide to come down to Manchester and wreck stuff!

TomPaine
 
We put £20 million into Manchester i think we have paid enough. If you can`t take the amount of fans we have then don`t ask for anymore finals.
 
The home of the good guys then. :D;):cool:



Yeah, and it's the first song i've noticed that has raise such an angry response. Even guys I know who don't get too anim,ated are pissed off with this one. Perhaps it's the combination of racism, xenophobia, religious bigotry and sectarian hatred all rolled into one song.

Or a piss take too good for the MOPES.
 
A crowd of scots who claim to be irish sing about how they are persecuted for their nationality by scots.
Where is the racism ,secterianism and xenophobia in that. The same MOPES who wave their British passports because we are not in any european competitions this season.
 
A crowd of scots who claim to be irish sing about how they are persecuted for their nationality by scots.
Where is the racism ,secterianism and xenophobia in that. The same MOPES who wave their British passports because we are not in any european competitions this season.

Have a look at the words of the song you ridiculous clown. And don't give it the 'but we only sing ra chorus pal'..... :rolleyes:
 
We put £20 million into Manchester i think we have paid enough. If you can`t take the amount of fans we have then don`t ask for anymore finals.

It's not the number of fans that is the problem, it's the fucking pricks that riot. At the end of the day it's the normal folks who had their cars smashed up that have to go through the hassle of applying on insurance etc. to get em fixed.

That's why I agree with the dickheads in England who do the same having their passports taken off them during Euro games/Comps. I presume they do the same up in Scotland these days as well?

TomPaine
 
Because someone adds words to a chorus it then means the whole thing is debatable. No one sings the whole song or even part of it. Are you too stupid to realise that. Keep singing about rebelling against the crown while you take your giro from the country you so despise.
 
Because someone adds words to a chorus it then means the whole thing is debatable. No one sings the whole song or even part of it. Are you too stupid to realise that. Keep singing about rebelling against the crown while you take your giro from the country you so despise.

It changes the nature of that song yes, doo you have difficulty with that? Do words and signs never change their meaning as a result of time passing and events taking place? Does time stop in your head or your world?

I suggest you actually have a clue about who I am before making cretinous stereotyped remarks eh?
Now, where have I said I despise this or any country? Speaking as a former soldier I find it quite funny, but carry on making a mug of yourself, it is after all, something you excel at. And given I am working, ironically for the civil service, why would I be claiming a giro?
And even in this idiotic reply you can't resist yet another cretinous stereotype can you?!
 
It's not the number of fans that is the problem, it's the fucking pricks that riot. At the end of the day it's the normal folks who had their cars smashed up that have to go through the hassle of applying on insurance etc. to get em fixed.

That's why I agree with the dickheads in England who do the same having their passports taken off them during Euro games/Comps. I presume they do the same up in Scotland these days as well?

TomPaine

I agree but why have the police not arrested more than they have.If they have Rangers connections then they should be banned.To my knowledge they were all hangers on.accents Manchester was not prepared for the numbers who came they were willing to sell alchohol all day then are surprised when because of poor planning a screen breaks and some riot.200 out of 200,000 Rangers supporters had played 18 games in europe that season with no arrests. It spoiled what was a great day out for me and many other thousands.did the inquiry ever disclose what really happened before the screen "broke"
 
It changes the nature of that song yes, doo you have difficulty with that? Do words and signs never change their meaning as a result of time passing and events taking place? Does time stop in your head or your world?

I suggest you actually have a clue about who I am before making cretinous stereotyped remarks eh?
Now, where have I said I despise this or any country? Speaking as a former soldier I find it quite funny, but carry on making a mug of yourself, it is after all, something you excel at. And given I am working, ironically for the civil service, why would I be claiming a giro?
And even in this idiotic reply you can't resist yet another cretinous stereotype can you?!

I`m a member of the RST maybe you should have a clue who i am before you make cretinous stereotyped remarks eh. I`m working class.
 
From what I read as well some of the twats where from Chelsea and over from Northern Ireland as well.
I'd ban the rioters for life from attending another game, would serve them right.

TomPaine
 
No but scots with no irish blood who sing all teary eyed about the old country should have the piss taken out of them.
 
I`m a member of the RST maybe you should have a clue who i am before you make cretinous stereotyped remarks eh. I`m working class.

What cretinous stereotyped remarks have I made? So what if you're in the RST? Couldn't give a fl;ying fuck if you were Minty Murray, Martin Bain, David Edgar, Mark 'secret squirrel' Dingwall himself, what has your membership of the RST got to do with anything? You made you're crass generalisations about hating this country and signing on and aimed them at me. I made no such generalised reply, merely replied to your own ignorance of my work and attitude towards this country.
So what if you're working class, what has that got to do with anything?
 
do you think Scots with Irish descent should go back to Ireland?

Well in theory that would be anyone of Gaelic/Scotti descent, so the whole of the North West would have to up and move sticks... and considering many of them settled there during the days of Dal Riada in the dark ages, those Scots who want to repatriate people had better check their own family history first ;).
They might want to stop calling themselves Scots whilst they are at it, maybe Picts instead ;).

TomPaine
 
Post 21 Middle "class wanks in the RST". Good fun this picking up on things isn`t it.

It is if you're able to do it properly.

So what? The phrase 'middle-class wanks in the RST' says exactly that, there are middle-class wanks in the RST, same as theirs middle-class wanks in every support. So your working class, when did I ever say you weren't? Care to show me where I denied this wee fact? I was pretty precise and not sweeping. Never once said that EVERY RST member-which includes people I work with-is a middle-class wank, so I suggest you try again.
 
Hurry up i'm finishing work in a bit... Sorry I mean i'm going to get my counter giro in a bit.....
 
I suggest you actually find out what the people who sing it mean then. Unlike the middle-class wanks in the RST some of them are quite open about they they sing it, and it's an anti-Irish song pure and simple.

There you go. I sing about the plastic paddies who have no connection to ireland so you are saying i`m middle-class are you?
 
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