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Iraqi Police Report - US forces execute 11 civilians

rogue yam said:
There are a lot of liars in Iraq. It is the ones who attack US forces who will die the quickest.

Your govt. has a pretty good track record for lying [as well as torture, murder of civilians, spying on its own people etc etc] Why do you insist on the Guardian story being wrong? Could it be because, in your eyes, the USA government can do no wrong? You must be one of those people who gets their news from Fox and nowhere else, I guess.

I find the tone of your post very offensive, as you are obviously relishing the thought of the death of Iraqis [who you assume are liars]. Where is your proof? Why aren't YOU over there fighting if you believe in this lousy war so much?
 
Bernie Gunther said:
Lots of people have asked him that. I've never seen him answer though.

I doubt we ever will. I suppose I should thank him for proving that he'll always be more chicken than hawk in terms of actually having the courage of his convictions, but being an ungrateful bastard, I'll be damned if I'll actually do so.
 
ViolentPanda said:
I doubt we ever will. I suppose I should thank him for proving that he'll always be more chicken than hawk in terms of actually having the courage of his convictions, but being an ungrateful bastard, I'll be damned if I'll actually do so.

I support his right to be chicken, but wish he wouldn't cluck so much. Perhaps his destiny is to 'help the troops' by being part of a huge KFC banquet for them?
 
rogue yam said:
There are a lot of liars in Iraq. It is the ones who attack US forces who will die the quickest.

Have you ever served yammie? When I say "served" I don't mean "do you want fries with that"?
 
handcuffs are fairly easy to get hold of iraqi police issue gear isn't that hard of to get hold of either.
basra police force sold two iof its police cars the day they got them :( .
just because iraqi forces killed people does'nt prove they were under orders or even real iraqi forces :(
as as for the shia militia's how to turn bad news we started a fight with the us military and got killedinto good news theylined up our brave fighters and murdered them :(
 
The twisted brain-wrongs of Yam and his ilk brought to mind a Pilger piece I read recently:
The war lovers I have known in real wars have usually been harmless, except to themselves. They were attracted to Vietnam and Cambodia, where drugs were plentiful. Bosnia, with its roulette of death, was another favourite. A few would say they were there "to tell the world"; the honest ones would say they loved it. "War is fun!" one of them had scratched on his arm. He stood on a landmine.

I sometimes remember these almost endearing fools when I find myself faced with another kind of war lover - the kind that has not seen war and has often done everything possible not to see it. The passion of these war lovers is a phenomenon; it never dims, regardless of the distance from the object of their desire. Pick up the Sunday papers and there they are, egocentrics of little harsh experience, other than a Saturday in the shopping mall.

<snip>

For me, one of the more odious characteristics of Blair, and Bush, and Clinton, and their eager or gulled journalistic court, is the enthusiasm of sedentary, effete men (and women) for bloodshed they never see, bits of body they never have to retch over, stacked morgues they will never have to visit, searching for a loved one. Their role is to enforce parallel worlds of unspoken truth and public lies.
http://pilger.carlton.com/print/133530
 
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