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IPL maybe coming to the UK?

nor will there be in South Africa with any luck

The 20/20 world cup thing they hosted was awesomely organised. I think this will work really well.

Bit bummed out its not coming to england, but it looks like the ECB fucked around a bit too much.

Modi is a decisive man if nothing else. I'm sure the suits at the ECB were still having meetings about having a meeting to discuss the the possibility of maybe hosting it by the time he had flown to SA, then the UK and back to India to brief his colleagues on his choice.
 
wouldnt have worked in the UK - wrong time of year, grounds already committed for use for other matches whereas season's finishing in South Africa.
 
We've won one game there all winter and that was because their coach can't count!

We certainly haven't been doing any thumping!

Nevertheless, bowling to defensive fields from the off and barely bothering to try winning the final three Tests does not constitute a 'thumping'
 
Fuck the T20 haters. They would rather see cricket die or scrape an existence in the summer sporting calendar next to speedway and rugby league than see it played in front of new audiences, some of whom will get drawn into the longer formats.

And it's a right laugh anyway.
hey mate just cuz some of us dont like the slogathon of 20/20 doesnt mean we'd rather cricket died. 20/20 stinks of desperation to me just as the stanford affair did. sports wax and wane, thats just life. 20/20 is the new labour of the sporting world, pretending to save the sick body whilst in fact killing it. the ipl is already fucking up the test schedule. its an ever decreasing circle - nobody outside england (except when thay are playing england somtimes) turns up to test cricket, one day crowds are dropping off - how long before the novelty of 20/20 goes? then what?
 
The IPL will be relieved of some of its meaning by not being played in India. But when it was played in India it was in front of huge live audiences, watching the best cricketers on the planet smash the ball around brilliantly.

County Cricket will see crowds and sponsors queueing up to get involved with the Twenty20 Cup this summer. They will not be banging in the doors of Headingley or Taunton with the same enthusiasm to support the Pro40 or County Championship.

well there you go - 40 over cricket the 20/20 of its time dying on its arse, even the lords final doesnt sell out anymore. something more fundamental is wrong and i fail to see what the 20/20 will do to halt that.

if we end having to cut our cloth accordingly so what? test cricket is the whole point of cricket anything else is window dressing. cricket is full of accountants obsessed with growth and expansion, greed will kill it more surely then just accepting that its not to everyones taste
 
quite right jannerboy. If football was perceived to be dying on its arse I wouldn't see getting them all to play 'three and in' as the solution. 20/20 is basically three and in with international standard players. I'm waiting for therm to introduce the hit and run and six and out rules to it soon
 
nobody outside england (except when thay are playing england somtimes) turns up to test cricket
At least 60,000 people turn up to the MCG every Boxing Day.

Australia and South Africa both get decent crowds to Test Matches and people still turn out to watch Tendulkar in India.

In the West Indies, the biggest problem is the idiotic ticket prices.
 
At least 60,000 people turn up to the MCG every Boxing Day.

Not every boxing day. I went 3 years or so ago when they were playing Pakistan. We had virtually the entire southern stand to ourselves. I was told this was because of the new rule that they were testing of not allowing any booze in and only selling low alcohol beer on site. Im not sure if that rule's now been revoked.
 
Not every boxing day. I went 3 years or so ago when they were playing Pakistan. We had virtually the entire southern stand to ourselves. I was told this was because of the new rule that they were testing of not allowing any booze in and only selling low alcohol beer on site. Im not sure if that rule's now been revoked.
Your memory might be playing tricks on you.

Attendance at this match on Boxing Day, 2004: 61,552

From here.
 
Nope, I remember it clearly :D Must have the date wrong though, it must've been the 27th. I recall it was the day of the tsunami, was that the 27th?

Anyway, it was empty!
Day 2 30,000+, Day 3 20,000. 30,000 is less than half full, so it might feel quite empty, but it's still more than the capacity at Lords.
 
Day 2 30,000+, Day 3 20,000. 30,000 is less than half full, so it might feel quite empty, but it's still more than the capacity at Lords.

Yeh, well might have been the time of day. I've got a pic somewhere as further proof but fuck it. :p

Off-track, but I remember the old boy I was talking to there telling me in disgust about the new booze law - he was also fondly reminiscing about the days of the 'beer wench'. You'd select a pretty girl from a lineup when you arrived in the morning who would fetch you beer as and when you required it for the rest of the day.

Excellent. Fucking PC brigade are de-balling the game :mad:
 
The puritans are winning at the moment.:( The bars at the Oval close during the afternoon now, and they don't let you bring any booze of your own in. It is not too long ago that everyone could bring whatever they wanted into any match.
 
hey mate just cuz some of us dont like the slogathon of 20/20 doesnt mean we'd rather cricket died. 20/20 stinks of desperation to me just as the stanford affair did. sports wax and wane, thats just life. 20/20 is the new labour of the sporting world, pretending to save the sick body whilst in fact killing it. the ipl is already fucking up the test schedule. its an ever decreasing circle - nobody outside england (except when thay are playing england somtimes) turns up to test cricket, one day crowds are dropping off - how long before the novelty of 20/20 goes? then what?


well there you go - 40 over cricket the 20/20 of its time dying on its arse, even the lords final doesnt sell out anymore. something more fundamental is wrong and i fail to see what the 20/20 will do to halt that.

if we end having to cut our cloth accordingly so what? test cricket is the whole point of cricket anything else is window dressing. cricket is full of accountants obsessed with growth and expansion, greed will kill it more surely then just accepting that its not to everyones taste

Stanford smelt of ego, depseration and greed yes, but it's not the same as 20/20 being rubbish, it's not. I know people think it's a gross bastardisation of the game, and if that's the case then their is nothing that can you say other than deal with it. What do they really want to happen, Twenty20 removed from the calendars? A PR coup extraordinaire for all those new fans T20 has made for itself eh? :rolleyes: And it is drawing in new fans, don't doubt it. Attendances are increasing year on year and i don't reckon it's a coincidence county championship attendances have been on the up either. The players love playing it, cricket is now playing to it's biggest ever audiences(avg 11,000 a match in aus, 7,000 here, 58,000 for the IPL), it's fun and it's exciting. You say it's a novelty but i know lots of people including myself who love it and i don't think any of us are stupid enough to be duped into liking something by flashy kits and blasts of 'jump around' and 'song 2' everytime someone hits a boundary... It's goddamn fun to watch.

Anecdotaly i can think of 6 or 7 rugby and football friends who have stated that they can't see the point of longer formats of cricket but who have been tempted down by the slogathon and really enjoyed it. A few of them have subsequently shown interest in longer versions of the great game and one of them memorably even came to a few days of county championship cricket last season too(he didn't take to that as quickly but i have high hopes for him!). And even if they don't catch the bug for the 'proper' format(s), then it's still money into the cricket clubs pockets that is desperately needed and simply wasn't there a decade ago.

Test and county cricket are ultimately where it's at, but i dread to think where they would be without the shorter formats, i really do. No money, no academies, crumbling grounds, poor infrastructure, and it's only recognisable public face, the gurning Geoffrey Boycott. No thanks.

(And pro 40 has always been crap!)
 
quite right jannerboy. If football was perceived to be dying on its arse I wouldn't see getting them all to play 'three and in' as the solution. 20/20 is basically three and in with international standard players. I'm waiting for therm to introduce the hit and run and six and out rules to it soon

i used to love hit and run - the entire of extent of cricket played at my school despite the decent and large cricket field and the expensive indoor nets we had!
 
At least 60,000 people turn up to the MCG every Boxing Day.

Australia and South Africa both get decent crowds to Test Matches and people still turn out to watch Tendulkar in India.

In the West Indies, the biggest problem is the idiotic ticket prices.

yeah well catch just a bit of the upcoming aussie tests in south africa - crowds will be sparse to say the least. the aussies get good crowds against us but rarelt so well against other nations even when they are spanking our arse (no doubt helped by a lot of ex-pats and travelling fans).
turning out to see one player, even one as great as tendulkar, is hardly the basis for a healthy test scene. what happens when he retires. obviously the situation in pakistan isnt helping cricket not that that is the most important aspect of whats going on. i love pakistan cricket as well. terrible really
 
Stanford smelt of ego, depseration and greed yes, but it's not the same as 20/20 being rubbish, it's not. I know people think it's a gross bastardisation of the game, and if that's the case then their is nothing that can you say other than deal with it. What do they really want to happen, Twenty20 removed from the calendars? A PR coup extraordinaire for all those new fans T20 has made for itself eh? :rolleyes: And it is drawing in new fans, don't doubt it. Attendances are increasing year on year and i don't reckon it's a coincidence county championship attendances have been on the up either. The players love playing it, cricket is now playing to it's biggest ever audiences(avg 11,000 a match in aus, 7,000 here, 58,000 for the IPL), it's fun and it's exciting. You say it's a novelty but i know lots of people including myself who love it and i don't think any of us are stupid enough to be duped into liking something by flashy kits and blasts of 'jump around' and 'song 2' everytime someone hits a boundary... It's goddamn fun to watch.

Anecdotaly i can think of 6 or 7 rugby and football friends who have stated that they can't see the point of longer formats of cricket but who have been tempted down by the slogathon and really enjoyed it. A few of them have subsequently shown interest in longer versions of the great game and one of them memorably even came to a few days of county championship cricket last season too(he didn't take to that as quickly but i have high hopes for him!). And even if they don't catch the bug for the 'proper' format(s), then it's still money into the cricket clubs pockets that is desperately needed and simply wasn't there a decade ago.

Test and county cricket are ultimately where it's at, but i dread to think where they would be without the shorter formats, i really do. No money, no academies, crumbling grounds, poor infrastructure, and it's only recognisable public face, the gurning Geoffrey Boycott. No thanks.

(And pro 40 has always been crap!)

you are overstating your case. 20/20 never came along and saved us against your last paragraph - the ashes win in 2005 did.

i never mentioned the things attached to 20/20 as i couldnt give a toss about that, if people enjoy then fine and dandy. the problem is when the money for 20/20 gets to the point that the players prioritise it cuz of the money (we've already lost a series against sril lanka becuase it clashed with the ipl - nothing against the sri lankans who had the guts to go to pakistan god love 'em), when that form of cricket becomes dominant then why bother with test cricket? why bother learning the skills of test cricket when you earn the big money in 20/20?

nobody watching, nobody turning up, expensive to run - you really think the icc can be trusted to protect test cricket against a billion dollar 6 week tourny? do you really think they can be trusted to resist expanding that league to 12 weeks or 16? or prioritising 20/20s in england?

the stanford affair is indicative of their short sighted chasing of the almighty dollar and its what seems to be driving their decision making. stanford reflects a rotten core not an accidental one off.

and when that happens when people get bored of the 20/20? bye bye cricket.
 
you are overstating your case. 20/20 never came along and saved us against your last paragraph - the ashes win in 2005 did.

i never mentioned the things attached to 20/20 as i couldnt give a toss about that, if people enjoy then fine and dandy. the problem is when the money for 20/20 gets to the point that the players prioritise it cuz of the money (we've already lost a series against sril lanka becuase it clashed with the ipl - nothing against the sri lankans who had the guts to go to pakistan god love 'em), when that form of cricket becomes dominant then why bother with test cricket? why bother learning the skills of test cricket when you earn the big money in 20/20?

nobody watching, nobody turning up, expensive to run - you really think the icc can be trusted to protect test cricket against a billion dollar 6 week tourny? do you really think they can be trusted to resist expanding that league to 12 weeks or 16? or prioritising 20/20s in england?

the stanford affair is indicative of their short sighted chasing of the almighty dollar and its what seems to be driving their decision making. stanford reflects a rotten core not an accidental one off.

and when that happens when people get bored of the 20/20? bye bye cricket.

I disagree and think you are overstating your case...:p

Time will tell eh?!
 
yeah well catch just a bit of the upcoming aussie tests in south africa - crowds will be sparse to say the least. the aussies get good crowds against us but rarelt so well against other nations even when they are spanking our arse (no doubt helped by a lot of ex-pats and travelling fans).
Sorry, this just isn't true. The last series in SA against Aus was pretty well attended - 50,000 plus over the five days for each match. Yes, matches against England get the best crowds, but in fact, attendance at test matches in Aus is at least as good as that in England. The empty seats are due to the much much larger grounds.

*I can't believe how anal I am about this, but it brings out the trainspotter in me*
 
I disagree and think you are overstating your case...:p

Time will tell eh?!
It's already seriously affecting test cricket. New Zealand's only world-class fast bowler, Shane Bond, gave up test cricket for 20-20. Yes, he is notoriously injury-prone, but this decision may have caused NZ to lose 20-odd matches with Bond as their spearhead.
 
Sorry, this just isn't true. The last series in SA against Aus was pretty well attended - 50,000 plus over the five days for each match. Yes, matches against England get the best crowds, but in fact, attendance at test matches in Aus is at least as good as that in England. The empty seats are due to the much much larger grounds.

*I can't believe how anal I am about this, but it brings out the trainspotter in me*

True this, I saw three Tests of the 2003/4 tour by India and the crowds at Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney were massive
 
Sorry, this just isn't true. The last series in SA against Aus was pretty well attended - 50,000 plus over the five days for each match. Yes, matches against England get the best crowds, but in fact, attendance at test matches in Aus is at least as good as that in England. The empty seats are due to the much much larger grounds.

*I can't believe how anal I am about this, but it brings out the trainspotter in me*

10k per day for a test match is good? or am i misreading you here?
 
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