IP Scramblers - which one?

[stupid dogbot]

What Boris said (as usual).

And if she has the slightest inkling of who may be doing this, contact the authorities. Stalking is a crime, cyber or otherwise.

 

[Jackobi]

Sounds to me like the problem here is not to do with computers or IP addresses.

What 'computer tech guy' said, is possible, not that I think it is a good solution, but as he isn't a relationship counsellor, I suppose his solution would be techy.

 

[fractionMan]

It's not a solution at all and will not help in this instance.

 

[Jackobi]

It would be a solution to him not finding out her IP address if she changed it first and then spoofed her IP address, but it is a ridiculous suggestion.

 

[fractionMan]

It would be a solution to him not finding out her IP address if she changed it first and then spoofed her IP address, but it is a ridiculous suggestion.

Er, how is he finding out her IP address? Unless it's by her visiting his website this really, really won't make any difference.

If she's assigned a static IP by her ISP it remains the same regardless. And if it's a dynamic one will last the length of the session, again regardless of tor use or whatever.

Her computer has an address. IP spoofing doesn't change the address, it makes you appear to come from somewhere else.

All this talk of IP addresses is a a complete red herring given the symptoms described.

 

[joustmaster]

THis does sound like a serious error at layer 8 of the network stack however.

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

Also, I would like to add in the true spirit of pedantry, there is no such thing as an IP scrambler.

 

[keybored]

Sack your computer guy. He's the cyber stalker.

This, and what a great film this would make.

 

[joustmaster]

Also, I would like to add in the true spirit of pedantry, there is no such thing as an IP scrambler.

of course there is.
it would just make your connection unusable.
615.7.333.111

 

[Blagsta]

tbh, it sounds like delusional paranoia

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

Whatever you do don't scramble your IP to 127.0.0.1 because things will really take a turn for the worse.

 

[dlx1]

Internet stalker for a few years now

Years! one think missed go to the police, print out emails from stalker if that problem is.

 

[stupid dogbot]

Whatever you do don't scramble your IP to 127.0.0.1 because things will really take a turn for the worse.

Heh. Might solve some issues for some people, though.

 

[Jackobi]

Er, how is he finding out her IP address?

I have no idea, I was just pointing out that computer tech guy had the right idea, but it was bad advice considering the circumstances.

 

[stuff_it]

Her passwords have been a bit better than the last time she showed them me, but she still won't go to the feds.

And yes, the person most likely in the frame if it isn;t this old flame is indeed a weird computer tech she hired about the time she started getting the problems.

And she has recently moved, and has no current BB accountm so next time she gets it set up it WILL be a new IP.

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

But a new IP is a placebo. If the machine is rooted, whatever trojan code is on there will most likely call home automatically. The most pertinent advice was my original post IMO.

 

[Bajie]

Her passwords have been a bit better than the last time she showed them me, but she still won't go to the feds.

And yes, the person most likely in the frame if it isn;t this old flame is indeed a weird computer tech she hired about the time she started getting the problems.

And she has recently moved, and has no current BB accountm so next time she gets it set up it WILL be a new IP.

What do you think of the posts on the thread saying that there may in fact be no cyber stalker at all, outside of your mothers mind.

 

[Sunray]

Chances are that you get a new IP from you ISP ever few days or every single time you switch on your router if you switch it off. Unless someone is given access to the machine then the probability of what you are saying is so low its essentially impossible.

 

[keybored]

Chances are that you get a new IP from you ISP ever few days or every single time you switch on your router if you switch it off. Unless someone is given access to the machine then the probability of what you are saying is so low its essentially impossible.

Many routers support a dynamic dns service like dyndns.com, I've set many of these up for remote access to customers who don't have a static IP.

 

[Jackobi]

Chances are that you get a new IP from you ISP ever few days or every single time you switch on your router if you switch it off. Unless someone is given access to the machine then the probability of what you are saying is so low its essentially impossible.

It's very doubtful that the IP address changes, even if it is dynamic. Most dynamic IPs are 'sticky', they do not change much, if at all.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I have to say that I'm on the "this is likely imaginary" side here too, particularly given that there seems to be no indication of anything happening apart from spam that looks like it might refer to something - I get so much spam with random titles and quotes, it could refer to anything if I put my mind to it.

 

[rivertree]

Shouldn't this thread be moved to health & shagging.

 

[salem]

Just a thought, but is she using a wifi connection at home? Someone within range of her network could possibly sniff out info undetected if they tried hard enough and her network wasn't well encrypted (WEP for example is widely regarded to be pretty useless).

 

[stuff_it]

I have to say that I'm on the "this is likely imaginary" side here too, particularly given that there seems to be no indication of anything happening apart from spam that looks like it might refer to something - I get so much spam with random titles and quotes, it could refer to anything if I put my mind to it.

She hooked the stand alone computer up to bb for the first time in ages, immediately set up Kaspersky and updated it, and straight away ferreted out a keylogger, and some other malware. Then she checked the log for the fisrt scan she did when she intalled Kasp on the laptop a caoule of weeks ago and foind the same keylogger on there...like most people she'd just clicked 'fix, fix fix' to the results of the firs scan without really reading them proplerly.

It's been abuot 18 months since the stand alone has been online at all, and th laptop is only 4 months old....same keylogger?

And the references are a lot mosre specific and concentrated. as well as DOS attacks when she's trying to send stuff like job applications or important tax stuff, followed by a load of messages referring to whatever she was just doing...eg references the area where the job was, or money, or somesuch.

I myself thought she was looneytooones for a couple of years when it first started happening.

 

[stupid dogbot]

Format it.

 

[stuff_it]

Just a thought, but is she using a wifi connection at home? Someone within range of her network could possibly sniff out info undetected if they tried hard enough and her network wasn't well encrypted (WEP for example is widely regarded to be pretty useless).

She's uaually too paranoid about it to have home access.

 

[grit]

It's very doubtful that the IP address changes, even if it is dynamic. Most dynamic IPs are 'sticky', they do not change much, if at all.

"sticky dynamic ips" LOL.

Each type the router attempts a connection with the ISP a new dhcp lease to created from the available pool. It changes regularly.

On a side note, christ I hoped/wished this thread had died already, its void of anything other than the paranoia of the OP's mother.

 

[Bob_the_lost]

EBCAK problem is my bet.

That the OP's mum is getting repeated virus issues it sounds like she's doing something wrong with installing programs or security settings. If you've got dodgy software you keep installing that has the logger in then you're fucked as long as you keep installing the corrupted program each time you reinstall.

If you wanted to really fix this then you do a full low level format, install a new copy of windows 7 that you bought from a legit source. Only install software from trusted locations and bin anything that you're not 100% sure about, get a trusted copy of an antivirus (hell in this case i'd pay for norton, not that it's worth it but just to be sure) and only once all of that's done, with a new strong password in use, do you connect to the net. Definitely only via a wired connection.

 

[Jackobi]

"sticky dynamic ips" LOL.

Each type the router attempts a connection with the ISP a new dhcp lease to created from the available pool. It changes regularly.

That depends on how long the DHCP lease is, most ISPs set the lease to last a very long time, hence it will not change often no matter how many times the router is rebooted.

 

[stupid dogbot]

DHCP will often re-assign the existing lease for another x period prior to expiry if it is available or doesn't have pre-existing requests queued.. My dynamic WAN IP has not changed in 2 years, despite the lease time being 36 hours.