nino_savatte
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Yossarian said:
Maybe it's because Edwards has spray-on hair and a stick-on smile?
Iowa Caucus - 2008
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Maybe it's because Edwards has spray-on hair and a stick-on smile?
SpookyFrank
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nino_savatte said:
Not that odd, Darwin himself would have nothing to do with social Darwinism and said so during his lifetime.
nino_savatte
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SpookyFrank said:
True.
Balbi said:Paul's the anti-intervention one. I saw him in the GOP debate back in September talking quite candidly about why he thinks Iraq was one of the worst mistakes in the history of Republican Presidencies, and how the people behind 9/11 were mainly Saudi's but the U.S Govt hasn't got the cojones to go up against the U.A.E
For a Republican, I thought that was novel.
He advocates overturning Roe v Wade to allow a State by State legislation on it. He's a real constitutionalist - apparently doesn't vote on issues, or votes against them unless they're sanctioned by it
IIRC , hes very much into the old islationist mindset - blowing out the rightous struggle to be the worlds self appointed policeman & looking inward once again.
Its a traditional US conservative outlook and to resurrect this is quite daring/ foolhardy - things have changed tho- American cant shut up shop and turn their back on the rest of the world like they did in the inter war years
An interesting perspective if possibly flawed ?
Yuwipi Woman
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What I find interesting is Obama's win. Here is a black man winning in a state that is 97% white. Things have changed a lot just in my lifetime.
I think part of that is because the rank and file democrat was really tired of the party shoving Mrs. Clinton down their throats. She's mostly gotten support because she was seen as the "inevitable" candidate. She might sink really low really fast now that she's been shown to be vulnerable.
I think part of that is because the rank and file democrat was really tired of the party shoving Mrs. Clinton down their throats. She's mostly gotten support because she was seen as the "inevitable" candidate. She might sink really low really fast now that she's been shown to be vulnerable.
david dissadent
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If Hillary did win and serve for two terms it would see two families hold the white house for 28 years between them.
Yuwipi Woman
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david dissadent said:
And look where the bastards have let us!
goldenecitrone
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So it's all over. Barack Obama is the next President of the USA. Well done Barack. 
Yuwipi Woman
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goldenecitrone said:So it's all over. Barack Obama is the next President of the USA. Well done Barack.
That's just a might premature.
dilute micro
esse quam videri
I didn't know females haven't done so well in Iowa. Hillary has always wanted to be president. You could tell it back when she said 'two for the price of one' at the national convention and when she ran for senate in NY. To lose this chance will kill her. I think she believed it was going to be easier than this with Bush fucking things up so bad and after two republican terms. Now she might not even get nominated.Jografer said:
david dissadent
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Yet if he wins in New Hampshire the fat lady will be doing warms so far as the Democrat nomination goes.Yuwipi Woman said:
I will probably vote for Mitt Romney so I was dissapointed that Huchabee won in Iowa. If Huchabee gets the Republican nomination it will be a complete disaster, dems will retain both houses of congess and the executive branch.
However, cooler heads will prevail and either Mccain, Guliani or Romney will get the Republican nomination. For the dems Obama or Clinton.
I really hope Hillary doesn't win.
However, cooler heads will prevail and either Mccain, Guliani or Romney will get the Republican nomination. For the dems Obama or Clinton.
I really hope Hillary doesn't win.
Obama has caught fire. The political pundits are gushing with praise, even many conservatives. The under 30 crowd (who usually have low voter turnout) and independents were a major factor in his victory.
He has a Bill Clinton/John Kennedy type charisma that I think the Repubs would find hard to beat.
He has a Bill Clinton/John Kennedy type charisma that I think the Repubs would find hard to beat.
dilute micro
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Democrats are going to keep congress no matter what. That's because republicans made a joke of themselves when they controlled it and people are tired of it.mears said:
Wouldn't Hillary be easier to beat?
I don't get why the people are voting for Obama as the seed of change. It's not like Hillary and Bush are on the same page here. And as for reverting back to the 90s, were the 90s really all that bad? I mean, America was at its best in my entire lifetime during Bill's reign, surely more of that is an Incredibly Good Thing, imo. I don't dislike Obama, but I'd rather see Hillary win, I think.
The media is seriously hyping up the Iowa caucus, but from what I remember of US elections, New Hampshire has always been the best predictor, for whatever reason. Probably because it sees people casting votes in private rather than being bribed in a room full of people. How ridiculous!
The media is seriously hyping up the Iowa caucus, but from what I remember of US elections, New Hampshire has always been the best predictor, for whatever reason. Probably because it sees people casting votes in private rather than being bribed in a room full of people. How ridiculous!
dilute micro said:
She is colorless and a tough campaigner, I think she would be formidable in a general election.
Clinton's position is similar to Bush's in 2000. Despised by the other party but the darlings of their own. Loads of cash and famous presidents in their immediate family.
I hope Americans don't want to go down the path of dynastic families running the country like India or Pakistan.
Electing Barak Obama would be a clear break from that.
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
Is Huckabee actually a deranged religious nut or just hoping for their votes?
mears said:
mate of mine was working for AP in NH for a while - said the smartest possiblity he ever came across ( and he knew them all fairly well ) was John Sunnunu back in the late 80's ?
He seemed to be lining up for a Republican entry at one point, but now sure what happened to him
Ill look up Romney and see what it says about him
zoltan69 said:
Sununu was made Geroge HW Bush's chief of staff and ran into some problems, I think taking private trips on the governments dime, or something. His son is a US Senator from NH.
I remember reading about Sununu Sr., he was that person in college (I was not one of these people) who made incredible grades without opening a book. He always struck me as being quite arrogant, as very intelligent people can act.
Even if you don't agree with Newt Gingrich on anything he is another politician who is incredibly smart. But he comes across as such a jerk (like leaving his wife when she had cancer) that he could never become US president.
nino_savatte
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Bernie Gunther said:
Both.
I doubt Huckabee can win the general election. The Republicans usually draw heavily on the Hispanic vote, and his primary platform issue is securing America's border from crazy deranged Mexicans ( ). He might get the evangelical vote, but the Hispanic community is at least a quarter, projected to be 50% in the not-so-distant future.
). He might get the evangelical vote, but the Hispanic community is at least a quarter, projected to be 50% in the not-so-distant future.Oswaldtwistle
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catrina said:
I agree. In fact I think Huckerbee winning the Rep. nomination might be good news, because it would make the middle ground more winnable for the Democrats- especially if Obama gets the nomination.
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