Invitation to participate in the creation of a new Revolutionary Socialist Orgnsation

[Nigel]

Have they actually advocated scabbing, or is this some kind of misrepresentation.

To be quite honest, being cynical about the labour/trade union movement in this day & age is'nt uncommon.
Be interested to discuss RSO and its relationship to other United Fronts.

 

[poster342002]

lets see how the internet arsehole named 'posterXXX' reacts to a dose of 'real' as opposed to 'lying wank'

Still not sure what you mean.

how high up in your fantasy worldview version of my apparent 'managerial' position do you consider me to be?

No idea. I've never met you. I can only refer to those leftists I have met - and just about all of them had held management roles at work. My anger at their stiniking hypocrisy began some years ago when one of the little shits was busy crawling up the bosses arse and almost got me sacked, lecturing me about my "disrespect to management". All the while prattling on about "workers rights".

Just the FIRST step in my road to realisation of the total crap it all is. 10 years on and I have learnt even more - enough to change my mind for ever.

 

[dennisr]

..... I can only refer to ... big fibs ... genreral tommy tank ... repetitive fantasies based on no evidence whatsoever ... etc ... All the while prattling on

yer, yer, yer whatever. load of old tommy tank and lies

look you like attention poster - i'm offering you some

 

[dennisr]

Be interested to discuss RSO and its relationship to other United Fronts.

you just weird, boy

 

[dennisr]

and I have learnt even more

you learnt nothing, you teach nothing, you are a dribbling prat and a general tall tale teller

come on weirdo you owe a pint or ten

 

[belboid]

Have they actually advocated scabbing, or is this some kind of misrepresentation.

To be quite honest, being cynical about the labour/trade union movement in this day & age is'nt uncommon.
Be interested to discuss RSO and its relationship to other United Fronts.

'they'?? Poster is just a fantasist who makes things up and always say that he isn't surprised everyone scabs given how shit our unions are, even tho he never would himself, oh no, no, no. That is - he provides a 'left' cover for scabbing, and constantly attacks the unions and trade unionists. I reckon he's a boss really, just coming on here to play.

 

[fractionMan]

If I join do I get a free hat?

 

[dennisr]

I reckon he's a boss really, just coming on here to play.

idiot savant maybe?

 

[poster342002]

you learnt nothing, you teach nothing, you are a dribbling prat and a general tall tale teller

come on weirdo you owe a pint or ten

The deep, deep irony is that throughout all this, I POSTER342002, have remained true to my tue, original socialist ideals while all around have backslided, joined the corporate ladderclimbers, made excuses, formed cliques of convenience, backstabbed those in need! I, Poster342002 did not leave the Left - THE LEFT LEFT ME!!!!

 

[dennisr]

The deep, deep irony is that...

...i am fibber who does nowt and never did

where do you work then posterWANK123? the city? menial job or highflyer?

 

[poster342002]

Have they actually advocated scabbing,

No. I have piointed out the atrocious levels of mas-scabbing when strikes are called, that the former-left are unwilling to acknowledge.

 

[dennisr]

No. I have piointed out the atrocious levels of mas-scabbing when strikes are called, that the former-left are unwilling to acknowledge.

<darlek voice> "engage and bore to death, engage and bore to death" </darlek voice>

'nigel' meet 'posterWANK456' - 'posterARSE789' meet 'nigel'

(nige, poster thingy has been 'there' and seen 'it' like, honest - a real barrel of laughs and infomation)

 

[dennisr]

No. I have piointed out the atrocious levels of mas-scabbing when strikes are called, that the former-left are unwilling to acknowledge.

city gent? or office wallah?

 

[DotCommunist]

you learnt nothing, you teach nothing, you are a dribbling prat and a general tall tale teller

come on weirdo you owe a pint or ten

are you offering someone out? ON THE INTERNET pmsl

 

[dennisr]

are you offering someone out? ON THE INTERNET pmsl

what a shocking insinuation - just cadging a drink like

 

[likesfish]

O O O can I be the mi5 mole I'm good at minute taking and making tea

 

[dennisr]

O O O can I be the mi5 mole I'm good at minute taking and making tea

its good training and a job for life - good initiative

 

[poster342002]

<darlek voice> "engage and bore to death, engage and bore to death" </darlek voice>

It is the Daleks of the fomer-left that have drifted from their original ideal and need to be completely reprogrammed and re-engineered.

 

[dennisr]

It is the Daleks of the fomer-left that have drifted from their original ideal and need complete reprogramming and re-engineering.

the wit of the dalek - a sight to behold

 

[emanymton]

Why should they bother when they often are already in positions of authority udner the existing capitlaist system. Just about every trot I've eevr met has been a manager.

Not many many then?

 

[nightbreed]

Why should they bother when they often are already in positions of authority udner the existing capitlaist system. Just about every trot I've eevr met has been a manager.

I was a deputy foreman in a warehouse once. Does that count?

 

[poster342002]

I was a deputy foreman in a warehouse once. Does that count?

I can't understand why anyone opposed to the system and it's hierchies would want to take on a position of authority within it over other workers. To me, it runs counter to every principle and ethic I hold.

 

[mk12]

Well said!

 

[Fisher_Gate]

I can't understand why anyone opposed tot he system and it's hierchies would want to take on a position of authority within it over other workers. To me, it runs counter to every principle and ethic I hold.

So all teachers are counter revolutionary because they take on a position of authority within the system?

 

[poster342002]

So all teachers are counter revolutionary because they take on a position of authority within the system?

I would argue they're not exactly the bastions of lefty proletarian vanguard that much of the left (and the right, ironically) makes them out to be.

 

[JHE]

Many Trots are right bossy boots! I think they'd be pretty much like that whatever jobs they had, but many of the worst of them are social workers or school teachers.

The worst of the worst are the 'full-timers' (sect managers): shouty, bossy and totally out of touch with the society they hope to transform.

 

[kabbes]

Now that this new socialist organisation has been formed, I look forward to imminent revolution and the overthrow of capitalism.

 

[audiotech]

I once consulted with a SWP full-timer. He stated quite clearly that taking up a supervisory, or managerial position, with powers to hire and fire, whilst holding party membership was unacceptable.

 

[Fisher_Gate]

I would argue they're not exactly the bastions of lefty proletarian vanguard that much of the left (and the right, ironically) makes them out to be.

That's classic fence sitting. Should all teachers be condemned for taking positions of authority in the system or not?

Presumably you learnt to read and write on your own if you think this?

 

[Fisher_Gate]

I once consulted with a SWP full-timer. He stated quite clearly that taking up a supervisory, or managerial position, with powers to hire and fire, whilst holding party membership was unacceptable.

So where does that leave the Central Committee members? Hypocrites? They told Rob Hoveman to resign his job with Galloway and that he would be employed by the SWP instead (he has a family to support).

That sounds like "powers to hire and fire" to me.