International Brigade to Palestine

[The Black Hand]

Your posts are amusing. The above comments on a thread where you call for an 'international brigade' to join the likes of Hezbollah. You my friend are a crank.

I never said that, that is your reading of it. You my friend, are a twat.

 

[The Black Hand]

Well, any organisation with you in it would be a dead duck, so I wouldn't be surprised if people joined after you left. I'm even tempted myself.

Yawn. Give it a go then, get off your arse for a change....

 

[BAKU9]

I never said that, that is your reading of it. You my friend, are a twat.

Absolutely, you never ever write the things you write do you Attica.

 

[Nigel]

I'm not quite sure I understand that sentence, but perhaps criminologists should not be members of an organisation like Class War?

Anyway, what you cannot deny is that there was a full vote of the membership, and that vote declared no confidence in you.

The rise in membership, and messages of goodwill from members of other organisations since your explusion indicate the correctness of both our method, and our route.

When are you off to the Middle East?

I know it is none of my business, but I think expelling Attica is completely over the top. Is he Racist Sexist Homophobic etc, etc.You've had a lot madder and eccentric people in your organisation, when it was a more vibrant and dynamic organisation, what has he actually done that is so bad. Being apparentely chaotic and disorganised, as far as I can see is not warranty to expel someone. Cannot other disciplinary measures be used.

The last international action like this, that was taken by the left/anarchists was Workers Aid, and was extremly credible and definitely did something for the people of former Yugoslavia.

 

[JHE]

I never said that, that is your reading of it.

Ah, finally I understand your plan. You're not going to join Hezbollah. You are going to be so successful in your war against Israel that you'll replace Hezbollah in the affections of the south Lebanese Shiites. They'll soon be converted to Anarcho-Criminological Fox-Protectionism.

 

[The Black Hand]

Absolutely, you never ever write the things you write do you Attica.

Sorry, you lost me there, and I have read it a couple of times... What's it a reference to in particular?

 

[BAKU9]

Sorry, you lost me there, and I have read it a couple of times... What's it a reference to in particular?

Oh dear. You always seem to deny writing the things that are further up the thread. Or you pretend that you meant something else. As has been said before, you are wasted, should hold a seat in Parliament.

 

[Nigel]

Workers Aid To Lebanon

So Attica what are your plans(seriously), their was talking (and rumours of talking) at the beginning of this recent invasion/occupation of Iraq of such a project to support oil workers in Southern Iraq

 

[The Black Hand]

Oh dear. You always seem to deny writing the things that are further up the thread. Or you pretend that you meant something else. As has been said before, you are wasted, should hold a seat in Parliament.

Sorry, but that just wasn't clear from what you wrote...

The logic I use is called associational logic, also with significant libertarian/humanist Marxist intent. But don't you worry, many of the so-called Marxists don't know dialectical thought either.

 

[BAKU9]

Sorry, but that just wasn't clear from what you wrote...

The logic I use is called associational logic, also with significant libertarain/humanist Marxist intent. But don't you worry, many of the so-called Marxists don't know dialectical thought either.

Ha! No Attica it's called bullshit. Good old fashioned spread it on your forehead I'm a fruitcase bullshit. But do carry on it's fantastic!

 

[The Black Hand]

Ha! No Attica it's called bullshit. Good old fashioned spread it on your forehead I'm a fruitcase bullshit. But do carry on it's fantastic!

You're the bullshitter twat...

 

[8den]

You're the bullshitter twat...

Wow reduced to I know you are, but what am I.

Capitalist society is actually collectively shitting themselves at your fierce class war anarchism.

 

[BAKU9]

You're the bullshitter twat...

Occasionally but only when I'm off the medication. Will I be allowed to take my pills along when we hightail it through the caves of Saaarrrfff Lebonogne?

 

[TAE]

If that worked, surely the invasion of Iraq would not have happened?

World opinion is irrelevant to the Neo-Cons, and indeed to Mr Blair, who sees no political prospects for the UK other than carrying America's bags, and of course buying Mr Bush jumpers.

They will do what they want in the Middle East. All we can do is sit back and watch people die on our TV screens........

Sorry, I only just saw this reply.

Blair would love it if everyone thought like that. No point in voting, no point in demonstrating, no point in resisting. Just let them do whatever they want.

No thank you.

 

[brasicritique]

I think a lot of people are really being negative towards what is in fact a rather good idea.If there is one thing the people of Lebanon need it is thick sandbags and there appears to be plenty of them posting on Urban...

 

[Nigel]

To do is to be: to be is to do: do be doo doo!!!!!

So Attica is this a serious proposition or just another bitching session

 

[The Black Hand]

Earlier in this thread, and in reply to Paul marsh, I said this;

"Apart from your toleration of those with prejeudices against those with mental health issues within CW (JW...) you certainly have displayed mysoginist traits against a capable woman who you showed most clearly you didn't want in CW. Now, that's embarrassing."

Unfortunately I made a spelling mistake I shall now correct, misogynist is the correct spelling, unfortunately I got my y's and my i's mixed up.

Cheers

 

[The Black Hand]

So Attica is this a serious proposition or just another bitching session

"International Brigade to Palestine

... should we build a new International Brigade to fight the Israeli war machine? I must say, I feel sympathy for the latter idea..." was my first post on this thread, and it is still my question.

It was about exploring the nature of class war anarchist participation in the struggles currently and about to happen... You see, I would rather raise a question because that is open ended, and leaves the politics to be made, it is about making sides rather than taking them.

It appears some people are afraid of ideas, and politics is a bad game to be in if you are afraid of ideas, in fact those with so much pent up negativity are certainly the wrong ones to have an opinion on politics which is supposed to be about individual and class libertation... Oh, but that would mean they hang up their boots as part of the problem rather than the solution... A good idea eh!

I on the other hand would like a radical idea fully discussed and then be able to make up my mind independently, but thats just too damn Anarcho-Marxist-Humanist for some...

 

[LLETSA]

"International Brigade to Palestine

... should we build a new International Brigade to fight the Israeli war machine? I must say, I feel sympathy for the latter idea..." was my first post on this thread, and it is still my question.

It was about exploring the nature of class war anarchist participation in the struggles currently and about to happen... You see, I would rather raise a question because that is open ended, and leaves the politics to be made, it is about making sides rather than taking them.

It appears some people are afraid of ideas, and politics is a bad game to be in if you are afraid of ideas, in fact those with so much pent up negativity are certainly the wrong ones to have an opinion on politics which is supposed to be about individual and class libertation... Oh, but that would mean they hang up their boots as part of the problem rather than the solution... A good idea eh!

I on the other hand would like a radical idea fully discussed and then be able to make up my mind independently, but thats just too damn Anarcho-Marxist-Humanist for some...

Yes, yes, but let's cut to the chase: how many are you taking and are you going to give Hezbollah prior warning and a promise not to get in the way?

And who's going to be negotiating with them about opening up a space for 'class war Anarcho-Marxist-Humanist individual class libertation' (sic)?

 

[The Black Hand]

Yes, yes, but let's cut to the chase: how many are you taking and are you going to give Hezbollah prior warning and a promise not to get in the way?

And who's going to be negotiating with them about opening up a space for 'class war Anarcho-Marxist-Humanist individual class libertation' (sic)?

You my friend, like other drones or those with too much negativity see problems at every turn. No organisation is ever 100% hardcore, there are always some lesser committed ones, those who are not active and just doing the minimum to still be involved, and those who have left/moved. There are people NOT in organisations too, and as I said, this thread is about exploring the potential for such networking/research to enable participation by 'British' 'folks' etc...

 

[LLETSA]

You my friend, like other drones or those with too much negativity see problems at every turn. No organisation is ever 100% hardcore, there are always some lesser committed ones, those who are not active and just doing the minimum to still be involved, and those who have left/moved. There are people NOT in organisations too, and as I said, this thread is about exploring the potential for such networking/research to enable participation by 'British' 'folks' etc...

Yeah but have you opened up discussions with Hezbollah yet? Somebody's got to make a start.

And who are you taking? I'm sure the 'research' you're all gonna get up to will be....enlightening.

 

[The Black Hand]

Yeah but have you opened up discussions with Hezbollah yet? Somebody's got to make a start.

And who are you taking? I'm sure the 'research' you're all gonna get up to will be....enlightening.

You forgot to 'diss' networking too...

 

[Nigel]

"International Brigade to Palestine

... should we build a new International Brigade to fight the Israeli war machine? I must say, I feel sympathy for the latter idea..." was my first post on this thread, and it is still my question.

It was about exploring the nature of class war anarchist participation in the struggles currently and about to happen... You see, I would rather raise a question because that is open ended, and leaves the politics to be made, it is about making sides rather than taking them.

It appears some people are afraid of ideas, and politics is a bad game to be in if you are afraid of ideas, in fact those with so much pent up negativity are certainly the wrong ones to have an opinion on politics which is supposed to be about individual and class libertation... Oh, but that would mean they hang up their boots as part of the problem rather than the solution... A good idea eh!

I on the other hand would like a radical idea fully discussed and then be able to make up my mind independently, but thats just too damn Anarcho-Marxist-Humanist for some...

As someone who was actively involved with Workers Aid For Bosnia, and at the same time a member of Class War, I would like to see a continiuty of this tradition.

 

[LLETSA]

You forgot to 'diss' networking too...

I can't foget something that I never think about. What is 'networking' exactly?

(Waits for news of yet another utterly groundbreaking idea from Attie.)

 

[The Black Hand]

I can't foget something that I never think about. What is 'networking' exactly?

(Waits for news of yet another utterly groundbreaking idea from Attie.)

Hmmm, there are plenty of other people who will tell you... I'm also surprised you don't know, its not rocket science you know.

 

[LLETSA]

Hmmm, there are plenty of other people who will tell you... I'm also surprised you don't know, its not rocket science you know.

I was rather hoping you'd tell me old bean.

 

[The Black Hand]

I was rather hoping you'd tell me old bean.

IT does exactly as it says on the tin old bean, its about creating a network of info exchange/solidarity/ whatever people decide, without illusions nor control centre...

A bit libertarian for you I fear old bean...

 

[LLETSA]

IT does exactly as it says on the tin old bean, its about creating a network of info exchange/solidarity/ whatever people decide, without illusions nor control centre...

A bit libertarian for you I fear old bean...

Let me know when you've set it up.

Are you leaving it until you get back from Lebanon, or are you gonna organise it from an internet cafe in Beirut?

 

[The Black Hand]

There are many many networks already, you're soooo behind the times its amusing

 

[LLETSA]

There are many many networks already, you're soooo behind the times its amusing

I'm aware of that now. Went down the street this morning to buy the milk and a newspaper and I nearly tripped up over one.