International Brigade to Palestine

[JHE]

You tell 'im!



Now, what's your plan for an "International Brigade to fight the Israeli war machine"?

 

[The Black Hand]

Attica - you have been expelled from Class War.

Please stop talking as if you are still a member - it is embarrassing for us, and you are also embarrassing yourself.

While you're speculating on what is embarrasing. Here's one I really don't get. I organise and chair a really good CW meeting recently at Projectile, with Davy Hopper (Gen Sec of NE NUM) and Dave Douglass, And then your 'expulsion' bullshit pops up. WHEN that meeting was far better than anything else CW has publically organised in 'living memory' - that points out that it is you who are an 'embarrasment'...

 

[The Black Hand]

You tell 'im!



Now, what's your plan for an "International Brigade to fight the Israeli war machine".

It's an idea, one that I have sympathy for, and no amount of 'oh its wrong' bullshite from you invalidates the idea...

 

[JHE]

It's an idea, one that I have sympathy for...

So tell us a bit more about it.

 

[The Black Hand]

So tell us a bit more about it.

To quote the Man in Black; 'it ain't me babe, no no no, it ain't me you're looking for'.

 

[JHE]

To quote the Man in Black; 'it ain't me babe, no no no, it ain't me you're looking for'.

Damn! I thought you were The One.

 

[Gamine Salter]

It's an idea, one that I have sympathy for, and no amount of 'oh its wrong' bullshite from you invalidates the idea...

Are you a hardman??

 

[The Black Hand]

Damn! I thought you were The One.

Ok, some of the International Brigade to palestine idea may include similarities to Workers Aid for Bosnia...

 

[The Black Hand]

Are you a hardman??

Whats a hardman?

 

[JHE]

Ok, some of the International Brigade to palestine idea may include similarities to Workers Aid for Bosnia...

Ah, non-combatants taking humanitarian aid. OK, best of luck - though I think there may be people better qualified than you to do it.

But... that, you say, may be some of the idea. What's the rest of the idea? The stuff about "fight[ing] the Israeli war machine"?

 

[Paul Marsh]

I do not recognise the Stalinist undemocratic, unconstitutional and bureaucratic machinations you 'used' to put a gloss of legitimacy onto your bullshit. If you are embarrassed by this tough titty I am not.

You cannot get fairer than an open vote of the full membership, and that vote declared no confidence in you.
The fact you clearly could not see it coming, when it was as plain as a pikestaff what was going to happen, is your fault, not ours.

This thread reinforces the correctness of Class War's decision - calling for an International Brigade to fight the Israeli war machine, when you yourself are too overweight to run for a bus, only reinforces your tendency to push the truth beyond all credibility.

Now that is embarrassing.

 

[JHE]

But I suppose fat people can make perfectly usable suicide bombers.

Is that the plan, Attica?

 

[Gamine Salter]

Whats a hardman?

Can you handle yourself in rough situations. Can you ask people to "put up your dukes" when the need arises.

 

[darren redparty]

But I suppose fat people can make perfectly usable suicide bombers.

Is that the plan, Attica?

 

[Gamine Salter]

Is that jocky wilson with a baseball cap??

 

[The Black Hand]

I tried to keep things fair, you didn't, you reap what you sow

You cannot get fairer than an open vote of the full membership, and that vote declared no confidence in you.
The fact you clearly could not see it coming, when it was as plain as a pikestaff what was going to happen, is your fault, not ours.

This thread reinforces the correctness of Class War's decision - calling for an International Brigade to fight the Israeli war machine, when you yourself are too overweight to run for a bus, only reinforces your tendency to push the truth beyond all credibility.

Now that is embarrassing.

Look Paul, you have no interest in fairness, constitutions, yours is more political machinations, and no it wasn't the full vote of the membership... It wasn't constitutional, it wasn't over if I had actually done anything wrong, it was who I was.

That is pre enlightenment NON 'justice', but hey, since when should a criminologist know more about justice than fools like you.

Dave Douglass resigned from Class War over the way I was treated - outside of the traditions of the modern working class movement (yours is pre modern bullshite - and you are going nowhere, as I said before, I on the other hand have many things to do and will do them)...

Apart from your toleration of those with prejeudices against those with mental health issues within CW (JW...) you certainly have displayed mysoginist traits against a capable woman who you showed most clearly you didn't want in CW. Now, that's embarrassing.

You really should have dealt with this better you know, that too is embarrassing. You denied a fair hearing with things like 'evidence', but hey, you've got an open problem that isn't going to go away now, a 'Class War Faction' that won't go away, and it's virtually all your own narrow minded fault.

And then you've got the stupidity to say that I am fat. Wow, is that really the best you can do? You're plainly desperate, AND foolish too...

 

[The Black Hand]

FFS is that the best you can do, you're as bad as Paul. You should both try politics for a change but you haven't got any.

 

[kyser_soze]

Attica - are you sure you're not too busy fighting your ex-comrades in Class War to go and start fighting with Hiz?

And I assume you'd be there, leading the charge, eh? Not for you the role of 'facilitator' and rounder up of volounteers then? A fiery life then death on the barricades, in among the revolutionary paramilitaries who were disliked by the rest of the Lebanese and effectively operated as a state-within-a-state?

'All the PFJ will be taking part in this revolutionary action, with the exceptance of Reg who will wait this one out at the sewer entrance, on account of his bad back'

Indeed, you could even be the first successful Western Suicide bomber!! Imagine the kudos with your revo friends!!

 

[JHE]

Indeed, you could even be the first successful Western Suicide bomber!!

He's been beaten to it by, for example, Asif Mohammed Hanif.

Attica could, however, be the first Anarcho-Slamist Criminologist and Fox-Protector to strike a blow against the Israeli war machine.

 

[kebabking]

Attica could, however, be the first Anarcho-Slamist Criminologist and Fox-Protector to strike a blow against the Israeli war machine.

i assume that his 'blow' will be to 'force' the Israelis to bankrupt their war-machine by spending half a shekel to riddle him with .50 cal bullets at a thousand yards?

way to go comrade, thats got them on their arse...

 

[Gamine Salter]

<ed: drivel removed>

 

[Paul Marsh]

but hey, since when should a criminologist know more about justice that fools like you.

I'm not quite sure I understand that sentence, but perhaps criminologists should not be members of an organisation like Class War?

Anyway, what you cannot deny is that there was a full vote of the membership, and that vote declared no confidence in you.

The rise in membership, and messages of goodwill from members of other organisations since your explusion indicate the correctness of both our method, and our route.

When are you off to the Middle East?

 

[knopf]

Are you a hardman??

 

[BAKU9]

Well is the following the best we can do? Or should we build a new International Brigade to fight the Israeli war machine? I must say, I feel sympathy for the latter idea...

You'll have to get yourself a beard.

I know a man who sells them if you want his number. Might even chuck in a prayer mat if you're lucky.

Me thinks your 'International Brigade' will have you converted to Islam in a week...

Is this a kinda 'mujahadeen fetish' you're going through?

Perhaps you should have gone to the Balkens a few years ago, it would have been closer.

 

[likesfish]

but the weathers not as nice
I always thought I was urbans idiot but an international brigade to fight the idf
maybe you could rope in combat 18 there suppoused to hate jews
at worse hezbollah use them as hostages or the israeli's kill them job's a good un

 

[STFC]

Once the International Brigades have defeated the IDF, are they going to kick the Great Satan and its allies out of Iraq and Afghanistan?

Good luck and God speed.

 

[The Black Hand]

I'm not quite sure I understand that sentence, but perhaps criminologists should not be members of an organisation like Class War?

Anyway, what you cannot deny is that there was a full vote of the membership, and that vote declared no confidence in you.

The rise in membership, and messages of goodwill from members of other organisations since your explusion indicate the correctness of both our method, and our route.

When are you off to the Middle East?

I am not quite sure you understand anything Paul. Democratic methods I equated with justice, I was being sarcastic about why I could't be expected to know anything about justice, but hey, I made a spelling mistake too. I will go to change it now... The prolier than thou bullshite doesn't wash either you graduate you

Fantasist!! Rise in mem/ship bollocks, as if there were thousands waiting to join if it were not for me, ha haha ha ha ha ha ha ha .... You barely have any members further west or north of Norwich and South of Glasgow, and you are pleased with your 'handywork'. Dream on... It would be more precise to call yourselves 'London and Norwich CW, oh and Glasgow'. 'Correctness' bullshite too, fucking idiots. The crises lives on, and ain't going to go away...

If you look, i just did (deny you had a full vote of the mem/ship, and Dave Douglass explained to you why already too), go read what I said earlier to check. Or are you in denial... Are you really claiming messages of goodwill from members of other orgs? How sad is that? They must be your buddies (all 2 of them) cos there's been no publicity for this elsewhere. Which Org too?
The BNP? Cos you spend so much time 'attacking' that lame old duck from the 1970s.... oh... who said that????

 

[The Black Hand]

The fact you clearly could not see it coming, when it was as plain as a pikestaff what was going to happen, is your fault, not ours.

Just a point, I could clearly see the bullshite emanating from your quarters. Do you think I tried to inject things like accountability and democracy into CW via a constitution wasn't trying to protect myself from machinations like yours? Of course it was dimwit.

You though, with the help of sloppy internal CW organisation, a stupid bloke from Donny (certainly not Dave Douglass) , and a cry baby from Norwich managed to get the anti democratic and unconstitutional 'motion' to put a gloss on your manouvres... AS I already said... You have a perspective, I have one too, mine is more in keeping with the traditions of the working class movement and with what Class War was. Yours have I have said elsewhere is impossible to define, outside any identifiable political traditions or theories, and instead is an undefined and unprincipled 'Third Way'.

Finally, it is for the best that we have parted ways, but you should have done it differently. I was at the National Conference last autumn, and there was a perfect time to have democratic accountability, with things like a charge, evidence, so people could make there minds up. But no, you preferred pre modern 'justice' with Scargillite bureaucratic bullshite. Au revoir.

 

[cutandsplice]

Just a point, I could clearly see the bullshite emanating from your quarters. Do you think I tried to inject things like accountability and democracy into CW via a constitution wasn't trying to protect myself from machinations like yours? Of course it was dimwit.

You though, with the help of sloppy internal CW organisation, a stupid bloke from Donny (certainly not Dave Douglass) , and a cry baby from Norwich managed to get the anti democratic and unconstitutional 'motion' to put a gloss on your manouvres... AS I already said... You have a perspective, I have one too, mine is more in keeping with the traditions of the working class movement and with what Class War was. Yours have I have said elsewhere is impossible to define, outside any identifiable political traditions or theories, and instead is an undefined and unprincipled 'Third Way'.

Finally, it is for the best that we have parted ways, but you should have done it differently. I was at the National Conference last autumn, and there was a perfect time to have democratic accountability, with things like a charge, evidence, so people could make there minds up. But no, you preferred pre modern 'justice' with Scargillite bureaucratic bullshite. Au revoir.

Well, any organisation with you in it would be a dead duck, so I wouldn't be surprised if people joined after you left. I'm even tempted myself.

 

[BAKU9]

Just a point, I could clearly see the bullshite emanating from your quarters. Do you think I tried to inject things like accountability and democracy into CW via a constitution wasn't trying to protect myself from machinations like yours? Of course it was dimwit.

You though, with the help of sloppy internal CW organisation, a stupid bloke from Donny (certainly not Dave Douglass) , and a cry baby from Norwich managed to get the anti democratic and unconstitutional 'motion' to put a gloss on your manouvres... AS I already said... You have a perspective, I have one too, mine is more in keeping with the traditions of the working class movement and with what Class War was. Yours have I have said elsewhere is impossible to define, outside any identifiable political traditions or theories, and instead is an undefined and unprincipled 'Third Way'.

Finally, it is for the best that we have parted ways, but you should have done it differently. I was at the National Conference last autumn, and there was a perfect time to have democratic accountability, with things like a charge, evidence, so people could make there minds up. But no, you preferred pre modern 'justice' with Scargillite bureaucratic bullshite. Au revoir.

Your posts are amusing. The above comments on a thread where you call for an 'international brigade' to join the likes of Hezbollah. You my friend are a crank.