no he wouldnt if purnell was on here he would be part of the media monothuoght click that sums it up in the other forums these days
Interest on Crisis Loans
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no he wouldnt if purnell was on here he would be part of the media monothuoght click that sums it up in the other forums these days
Fedayn
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the thread is about interest on crisis loans you do not work for credit unions ether so you can shut the fuck up
wtf is it wit hall you posh cunts you have everything in life yet if we follow your logic any one who is not an expert cannot ! cunt
great contribution dog shagger
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
fuckers, pure and simple. radical change undertaken without any pretence of carrying out a CaBinet Office level of consultation, on a scheme that KPMG no less say has no chance of national implementation due to the absence of any investment body that would take the risk.
and these fuckers press ahead with a fucking loan scheme that charges 27/28% on a year's loan for people on benefit and these fuckers try to sell it as progress. absolute loathsome cunts tbf
and these fuckers press ahead with a fucking loan scheme that charges 27/28% on a year's loan for people on benefit and these fuckers try to sell it as progress. absolute loathsome cunts tbf
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
Says the man with 'monothought tourettes'. I've already commented above, not that you give a fuck what I say as i'm monothought clique and just a DWP worker and PCS rep.
well theres so many idiots on this thread its hard to keep up
actually your more o fa DWP worker who is a memebr of the class biased monothuoght click still keep it up
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
well theres so many idiots on this thread its hard to keep up
Well if you stay off there's one less.
Fullyplumped
in a personal capacity
(Remembers to breathe).
(gets own back by editing brasicritique's post). 
Yes, the thread is about interest on crisis loans. Terrible idea, dropped like a hot rock.
I believe that one aspect of the proposal in the government paper, which I have not seen but only read about, is that credit unions could take over administration of crisis loans, and I presume budgeting loans.
I think there is merit in credit unions playing a larger part in such things in the future and that the government should look for things for credit unions to do that will grow their influence. Incidentally, I would also like to see credit unions take over some sub post offices and their services to communities. I believe that something of this sort happens in some Irish communities.
I think it is a pity that you have formed a negative view about credit unions. I think you would benefit from meeting people involved in the movement. I'm not sure that you're a people person, so you'd probably not thrive in that field, but you would learn something new about practical community action.
I am highly amused at the thought that you believe I am posh and have everything in life!
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
Not quite, this was in papers previously within DWP. Make no mistake, Purnell and CO knew what was in this paper and had no problem with it's being printed. What they weren't expecting was the backlash and thought they'd sneak it in after parliament had gone into recess.
elbows
Well-Known Member
oh very droll yet another posh snidey cunt is there a shortage of pimms or somthing
lol. Im not posh, maybe I am a snidey cunt, I dunno, something must explain why Ive lost all my friends in recent years.
Or maybe I just dont swear enough, or I mince my words, or maybe I lack a big chip on my shoulder about class, and dont want to spend my time finding a group to hate to make me feel better about how crappy the world is.
Either way I dont drink Pimms and I dont read the Guardian and swoon at how progressive it is, and Im no apologist for New Labour. So I dunno what the point of picking on me is, people usually save that for threads where I am not so much being a bore, as putting my foot in it over environmental, energy & oil issues where there is ample opportunity for my views to be misconstrued as an attack on the poor or this mystical working class I hear so much guff about around these parts.
Fedayn
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well theres so many idiots on this thread its hard to keep up
actually your more o fa DWP worker who is a memebr of the class biased monothuoght click still keep it up
ANy chance you can explain, without spluttering or talking utter shite, how i'm a member of a non-existant 'monothought clique'?
Fullyplumped
in a personal capacity
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
I mentioned the KPMG report which was unequivocal in stating that there is no possibility of identifying a national partner. Yes, credit unions can be valuable institutions but to ask them to cover this scheme and to pretend this will not lead to gross unfairness is arrant nonsense tbf.
Fullyplumped
in a personal capacity
There's no such thing as a credit union with a GB or UK wide common bond, and if they were to develop partnerships with credit unions it would need to be at very local level and by mutual consent, negotiated with each CU one by one. Many would turn DWP down flat, while others would jump at the chance if the terms were right - but rulng out interest would mean CUs would need to get a payment to cover additional operational costs. That's how social enterprise works. If we need to keep the social fund, I would like to see some local pilots to test the idea out.
I'd rather we went back to single payments, though!
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Pathetic, isn't it?
I pity brasic. It must be hard being a stupid arsehole 24hrs a day.
It seems nu labour as backtracked over this .It is the very depths of nu labour lost moral compass that this scheme would even be considered.mabye with purnell it is a case of give him enough rope he will hang himself.I have seen his sort when i was labour member he is an ambitous bastard who will trample on any one to get to the top
If he was on here we could find out where he lived and send a dirty bomb to his fucking house!
Nuke him from orbit; it's the only way to be sure!
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Call me a conspiraloon if you will, but I see this as more "positioning" to be fully compliant for GATS.
lewislewis
Lumumba Cymru
I'm a member of a credit union & therefore part of the credit union movement, and the Welsh Government has given credit unions a huge boost this year including promoting them and ensuring everyone in Wales can join one if they want to. However i'm not sure they should manage any government expenditure, they should be for local communities and work places.
Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
I've read in the Indie that the government are backing down now on the plans to charge interest on people accessing social fund loans, not sure what that means for the plans more widely?
yes everyone is rich these days there is no underclass or working class its all a myth there is no poverty and there was never a plan to charge interets on crisis loans
you pimms swiging popinjay(Remembers to breathe).
gosh your so original editing other peoples posts still thats the type of spin driven manipulating newshamebore hack you are btw dont breathe on my account
yes its all a lie the idea was never seriously considered it was all an accdent a slip of a ministiral pen
you can belive all you like your belives are different from the realitys of a lot of people which is why your always tellling us to vote labour
straw bullshit what your doing here on this thread is saying it has been dropped then defeding it in principle to try to win people around to the idea in order to promote it as your above point demonstrates your whole post on this is by the book political negotating skills bullshit you know it and thankfully most other posters know it
given your views you regualry express i think we all know YOUR DEFINTLY NOT not a people person and as such know nothing about communites except the spin you swallow btw you would not know my view of credit unions as you have not asked and also you seem to be rather confused you seem to think that anyone who is anti interest on crisis loans is anti credit union it must be all that spin...
I am highly amused at the thought that you believe I am posh and have everything in life!
yes as we all know that your living in abject poverty
i just think your a rarity on urban a loathsome nushamebore cunt of a poster who is probably even more of a loathsome nushamebore cunt in the flesh still you have the votes of marty21 belbiod panda and butchers so you must be doing somthing rightFullyplumped
in a personal capacity
How is it manipulation if I pointed out that I did it?
I've no idea if it was seriously considered. It shouldn't have been and it's clearly been dropped if it was.
I've been here over three years and made thousands of posts and hardly ever have I told anyone to do anything, never mind presumed to tell people how to vote. On the other hand I've never hidden my political allegiances - an open and beautifully illustrated book, with copious footnotes, that's me.
The only idea I'm promoting in this thread is that credit unions are a Good Thing and deserve to play a more prominent part in our national life. As far as using negotiating skills - where is there a negotiation here?
I assumed from earlier comments that, unlike Treelover, for example, you weren't well informed about the credit union movement. I apologise if I am wrong about that. Since you raise the matter, I have previously said in this thread that I am opposed to interest on any advance of weekly benefit, which is what a crisis loan and a budgeting loan generally is. I think we should go back to the situation before 1988 and return to Single Payments.given your views you regualry express i think we all know YOUR DEFINTLY NOT not a people person and as such know nothing about communites except the spin you swallow btw you would not know my view of credit unions as you have not asked and also you seem to be rather confused you seem to think that anyone who is anti interest on crisis loans is anti credit union it must be all that spin...
I'm not wealthy but I don't live in abject poverty. I don't think there is any virtue in doing so. For a few years in my early life I did experience a kind of poverty but I could count on family and friends in emergencies, and was young and fit and well enough educated so had confidence that I would eventually escape it, confidence that was justified in due course. Nevertheless I am no longer young, and painfully aware of how precarious are life and health, and I am well aware that if not two payslips away from poverty, I am certainly ten payslips away. The demand for my marketable skills is likely to diminish so my financial future is most certainly not assured. I know that there is a possibility that I will need to be able to make use of the benefits system and community and mutual aid institutions like credit unions.yes as we all know that your living in abject poverty
I'm happy enough to be a rarity here - it all adds to the diversity and colour of U75. Live with it - you won't scare me away through abuse.i just think your a rarity on urban a loathsome nushamebore cunt of a poster who is probably even more of a loathsome nushamebore cunt in the flesh still you have the votes of marty21 belbiod panda and butchers so you must be doing somthing right
You say that I "have the votes of marty21 belbiod panda and butchers so you must be doing somthing right..." - that really would surprise me - it's not something I'm used to! These notables are probably not supporting me, they're being critical of you because of your unpleasant, antagonistic and ignorant behaviour. And stop rolling your eyes - you'll strain the muscles.
Merry Christmas, one and all!
Fullyplumped
in a personal capacity
I assume you mean any rate of interest.
No fully all your weasling will not cut it with those who can see you for what you are a mile away - you are always promoting newshamebore by telling us that things will be worse under a tory government those with a brain cell can see that both partys are on the neo-con bandwagon the only good thign about your posts i sthat people can see the type of person that support new labour as i said you are on here defending interest on crisis loans and you do so utilising a methodology that i have already point out in the above post where you try and make the idea look reasonable and on this thread you are now using it to attack credit union by pushing for there expansion an expansion which wuold require suprise suprise more capital which we all kno wis not going ot come from government is unlikely to come from pfi which leaves us with ..... interest on crisis loans - the idea is here to stay all the lies about it being droped are just that lies we are told it is 'droped' but droped does not mean 'scraped' or 'abolished' droped means that the idea is still there and can be 'picked up' again at a later date
Fullyplumped
in a personal capacity
Well thank goodness that God equipped you with a brain cell so you can see the world as it really is.
I had your user name checked using sophistimacated technology known to only a few outside the security state and found that you have identified the main agents of newshamebore active on the U75 network, and are engaged in work vital to oppressed people everywhere in showing us up for who we are. We have also noted your subtle campaign to overthrow imperialistic grammar systems by your eschewal of the full stop. Very clever, Mr brasicritique! But such impertinence cannot be allowed to stand, and eary tomorrow blacked-out helicopters will transport me and my fellow agents in the monothuoght click to meet with Peter M in his castle in the Highlands to plot out how we can respond. You have been warned - but maybe I have said too much!
I had your user name checked using sophistimacated technology known to only a few outside the security state and found that you have identified the main agents of newshamebore active on the U75 network, and are engaged in work vital to oppressed people everywhere in showing us up for who we are. We have also noted your subtle campaign to overthrow imperialistic grammar systems by your eschewal of the full stop. Very clever, Mr brasicritique! But such impertinence cannot be allowed to stand, and eary tomorrow blacked-out helicopters will transport me and my fellow agents in the monothuoght click to meet with Peter M in his castle in the Highlands to plot out how we can respond. You have been warned - but maybe I have said too much!
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