Institutional misogyny

[Poot]

Men are always the majority in sexual abuse of children and adults though, it's very clearly a factor and any analysis or understanding of why abuse happens has to take account of fact that it is overwhelmingly men who put their own gratification above treating others with humanity

Thank you for saying this, appreciated. It goes without saying that it is a tiny minority of men. We all know that. But it does need to be taken into consideration, no matter how obvious it is, that groups of men can be very powerful.

 

[treelover]

So this is completely down to the police and nothing to do with the Labour councils, politicians, and welfare systems under whose watch this was swept under the carpets. It's all about class and fuck all to do with muslim paedophiles who think that young white girls are kaffir and therefore lesser people and fair game, on top of their religiously sanctioned misoginy.

Athos thinks so.

Move along. Nothing significant here. There are white paedos too, so the fact that thousands of kids are being raped by Pakistani gangs is unworthy of attention.

Fuck off Ella. Nothing special about you, according to Athos.

Well done that man.

[/QUOTE]

As a Rotherham grooming gang survivor, I am scared by racism and hate crime in Brexit Britain

I welcome the new definition of Islamophobia, but in order to prevent racist abuse we need to teach that religious hatred towards non-Muslims is just as unacceptable

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But this does raise one question for me: in this environment, what do we call other types of religious and racial hatred not covered by these definitions? As grooming victims, my friends and I were called vile racist names such as “white trash” and “kaffir girl” as we were raped. Our Sikh and Hindu friends who were also targeted by Muslim Pakistani gangs were disparagingly called “kaffir slags” too. Muslim rape victims were called “coconuts” for acting “white” (which means brown on the outside, white on the inside – a term that is racist to both brown and white people at the same time).

that by a survivor is damning and a riposte to some of the denials.

 

[The39thStep]

He’s absolutely right. There should be an independent national inquiry into the actions and motivations of the police, social services and local government. It should look at the treatment and support provided to vulnerable kids. It should examine the nature and development of the rape gangs.

Given the desperation for this to all go away, noting the culpability of various vested interests and given the awkward issues it raises I don’t expect one to be granted. Put bluntly, not enough people give a fuck about the horrific - gut wrenching - experience of thousands of working class kids

Ann Coffey believe it or not did a very good inquiry into missing from home and grooming in Manchester . Her main point was that these teenagers were seen as a pain in the neck by both social services , the Police and other agencies , didn’t behave in classic victim mode and didn’t see it as a priority . What was left if the left saw it as a cuts issue rather than challenge the anti working class culture of the agencies . Most Labour councils response was reputation management .

 

[friendofdorothy]

Another uncomfortable fact is that nearly all of the abusers are men. So whilst we're looking at who the perpetrators are, that seems to be the one characteristic that no one is mentioning. Groups of men. Maybe groups where women are less visible, but groups of men nonetheless. Surely that should be a starting point.

Yes I think so too.

I think that's gone unmentioned because it's accepted as obvious.

But is it? Apart from the title of thread there has been little on this thread about misogyny and even less about Institutional misogyny.

Men are always the majority in sexual abuse of children and adults though, it's very clearly a factor and any analysis or understanding of why abuse happens has to take account of fact that it is overwhelmingly men who put their own gratification above treating others with humanity

neatly put.