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I was surprised to see there wasn't a dedicated thread on this film (although there's an old one about the book here) and debated just putting this in the "what DVD?" thread, but I've just finished watching PTA's Inherent Vice for the third time; I was having an argument with a friend arguing that it was a much better film about hippy-era Hollywood than Tarantino's bloated mess of Once Upon a Time... (something I've expressed my disdain for here before) and to cut a boring story short I ended up re-watching it. I think it's become one of those films I was borderline ambivalent to to begin with but I've come to like it more and more with each viewing. Maybe even to love it.

For those who haven't seen it, I guess I'd call it a black comedy spoof noir, as if Chinatown and The Big Lebowski joined a cult together and made a murder/suicide pact, aided by a cast of about nine trillion uniformly excellent cameos and bit parts (an unexpected highlight of which was Martin Short's coke-addled, sex-crazed dentist). I haven't read the book, but I have read Pynchon before and I thought the sprawling, freewheeling, digressive and wholly anti-cinematic structure of the film captured Pynchon's style very well.

I'm aware it was seemingly well-liked by critics but didn't do well at the box office (like most of Anderson's films to be honest) but I was wondering what Urban thought about it. A common threads seems to be that the plot is complicated to the point of incoherence - something that I figured was completely intentional. The whole thing is a ram-raid on a red-herring repository with many false (?) leads most of which lead nowhere but I can see how it would have put a lot of people off if they were expecting a more conventional noir mystery. Similarly, the tone and pacing is all over the place, but again I think a stylistic choice that reminded me of the drug-induced fug from the classic Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. It's probably not as funny as it needs to be in places where it thinks it's trying to be funny, but that's about the worst I can find to say about it.

As an aside, Phoenix has done some real corkers in the last decade. This and the also excellent You Were Never Really Here (along with Inherent Vice, also scored by Radiohead's Jonny Greenwood apparently) are real powerhouse performances.
 
It does feel like Incoherent Vice at times but really enjoyed it. But then, loved the cast, score and director. Have a few Pynchons really must get round to reading.
 
1st watch, I liked the feel of it but couldn't understand the plot too well (pissed) after wondered if it was good or bad so went for:
2nd watch, followed plot better, liked music/soundtrack and acting, friend hated/indifferent to it
3rd watch, thought a few bits should have been cut out to make it flow better, fell asleep

Think there was a good film in there somewhere but too hard to find it for most.

Due to watch it again soon
 
I dare say the noir piss-take of "investigator is too drunk/stoned/otherwise incapable to actually put the pieces together properly" thing has been done before but I don't recall it done with as much panache as this.

The cast, I think everyone can agree, are pretty stellar - even the ones I've never clapped eyes on before. Aside from the dentist, I was also very fond of Jena Malone's overly descriptive ex-junkie, the (un-named?) lady-friend-slash-spirit-advisor who provides some deliciously baroque VO throughout, bonkers Japonica gets about three lines that are all gold, the stupendously creepy Doctor Threeply and the masterfully vulnerable Shasta. Not that it's surprising knowing Anderson is at the helm but I struggle to name an ensemble cast that I think is stronger than this charming collection of fuck-ups.

I can see it not really being a film for everyone, but I still think it deserves more love. Perhaps it's because I tend to like films that are a bit of a mess about nothing, directors who try to take on "unfilmable" projects as well as being an admirer of PTA's films in general... but I think it's definitely deserving of cult status at the very least. And I still think it's narrative, acting and direction knocks Once Upon a Time in Hollywood in to a shabby straw fedora whilst still feeling like a more realistic California to me than Tarantino's ersatz machismo.
 
I must admit I never got round to it, it's probably the least known or lauded of PTAs films since his first film. Maybe this reminder will spur me on, I enjoy a bit of neo-noir.
 
I'm a massive PTA fan, but Inherent Vice was one of those films where afterwards you have to keep telling yourself, "I probably need to watch it again to properly appreciate it." Phantom Thread was kind of the same, not an amazing first watch in the way that his earlier films were, but probably deserves more careful rewatching.
 
My favourite film by PTA is Magnolia, I admired There Will Be Blood more than I loved it and didn't connect with The Master or with Phantom Thread at all. I can appreciate the intelligence and craft behind those two films, but I didn't enjoy them.
 
I think a trend in PTAs work has been to obfuscate, or perhaps even bury the narrative to varying degrees, with Inherent Vice probably being the best example. In a sense it's what makes it a hard watch, but rewarding. In this specific case, lots of the plot as written makes no sense and even trying to think straight about it put me right in Sportello's filthy drug-addled sandals. It's that sort of intimacy with the characters and portrayal of their inner lives (in a manner I compare to Margaret Atwood) in an indirect fashion that's made me such an admirer of his work.

I'd completely forgotten about The Master which I haven't seen since I saw it in the cinema. One for the weekend methinks...
 
My favourite film by PTA is Magnolia, I admired There Will Be Blood more than I loved it and didn't connect with The Master or with Phantom Thread at all. I can appreciate the intelligence and craft behind those two films, but I didn't enjoy them.
I really like Magnolia , its sprawling and flawed imo but its triumph is that it achieves more than its parts.
 
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