I was reading a very interesting website last night (www.whomakesthenazis.com) which claimed among other things that some neo-nazis were deeply involved the industrial music scene and the punk scene as well as other subcultures, but also that a lot of the bands that are in that scene have been openly or covertyl fascist, and that their aim in producing a lot of their music was to infiltrate those ideas into the industrial culture. I'm not sure about this being a massive fan of industrial music myself, but I will say that several bands do use fascist iconography and lyrics with certain messages in them, album covers, etc, which could be interpreted as being a bit dodgy (these tends not to be the ones I listen to). But some of them, like Laibach etc, are just doing it to shock and many are actually socialists or anarchists, and it often becomes clear if you listen to the lyrics in more depth. Some of them make music about the second world war, but from a standpoint of being opposed to it. But nonetheless there does seem to be a few fans who seem quite attracted to the ideas of the far right because of the music's whole "image" and I know a few people who are put off listening to it for that reason. But what Im wondering is to what extent there is anything more than that, and how this whole thing came about tbh. Im sorry if this is too deep a thread for the music forum but as I said I was reading this website last night and was interested to see what people thought about it.