Waste of good pie
Tangent, but I've just had some cake decorating supplies delivered to Gashtastic Cakes Inc
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Waste of good pie
Tangent, but I've just had some cake decorating supplies delivered to Gashtastic Cakes Inc
ajdown
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Assuming you're talking about Westboro Baptist Church, no I don't particularly think they do themselves any favours with their chosen form of expression.
Unfortunately, it's always the extremists in any argument that get the most exposure, and anyone else who might even be slightly supportive always gets accused of being the same as the extremists. I'm sure there are some very pleasant, normal, environmentalists out there but then you get fuckwits like Plane Stupid who ruin it for them all.
Unfortunately, it's always the extremists in any argument that get the most exposure, and anyone else who might even be slightly supportive always gets accused of being the same as the extremists. I'm sure there are some very pleasant, normal, environmentalists out there but then you get fuckwits like Plane Stupid who ruin it for them all.
Crispy
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Yes you do. I was there and did it with you.
Agent Sparrow
AGENT TRAITOR; fools 8 year olds
I would've thought protesting outside parliament might be a little more effective, given that the people going in and out of that building can actually change the law they hate so much.
targetting young and vulnerable women aint cool.
The looks in their eyes when I had a word
They looked fevered or something, zealots I guess. No idea what sect they were but looked pretty fundamentalist.... Anyway, sorry for derailing the orginial topic. Shouldve started a new one.
Agent Sparrow
AGENT TRAITOR; fools 8 year olds
ajdown
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Quite a few other things I find offensive but choose not to protest against then, does that make it clearer?
Mrs Magpie
On a bit of break...
ajdown
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The looks in their eyes when I had a word
... then try and find out, and organise a protest outside their building some time?
Crispy
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yes
No I found an online cake decorating shop. When I phoned them up the lady was really snooty and said they're for professionals not public, so ta-da! Me and S**a are now Gashtastic Cakes Inc.
Blagsta
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oh fuck off
ajdown
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We have those here in the States. I used to live on the same block as an abortion clinic, and there were often protests. Within half an hour or so, a bunch of "escorts" would arrive to protect the patients from the protestors. Saw brawls break out a couple of times and all.
ajdown
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They're on the other side of the road from the clinic, not stopping people going in or out at all, so no escort is needed.
Just people exercising their lawful - if perhaps unpopular to some - right to freedom of speech, thought and expression.
It's a pity that simply being an unpopular viewpoint is enough for the rabble round here to lambast them and get ready to attack, whereas protests that the very same people support that often turn to violence and unrest get praised for 'getting one up over the system/the Man'. Double standards or what?
Mrs Magpie
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Oh. I thought that meant you'd flounced.
Crispy
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Well, no, not really. I'll support anyone's right to freedom of speech, but I'll also support anyone's right to shout "you hateful bastard" back in their faces. If the prescence of these people means that women are made afraid of attending this clinic, then I'd personally support any counter-action that removed that fear.
quimcunx
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If they have the right to decide that protesting against abortion is appropriate I have the right to decide protesting against protesting against abortion is appropriate.
They sent an 'ambassador' of sorts to stand directly outside the clinic, to hand out little pink leaflets and also to stare at any car or woman leaving the premises. Traffic was bad for cars trying to turn out of there, so there was a lot of opportunity for the surplus little cunt to do so. The rest of the idiots just stood opposite singing such beautiful hymns as loud as they could.
If I'd had my wits about me I'd have taken my camera down and just filmed the fucks to post up here rather than just walking up to each and every one of them and whispering sweet nothings in their archaic ears.
ajdown
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Generally the police don't allow that sort of thing. I'm surprised they did here. Perhaps the fact that the building itself is some way back from the road meant they weren't considered "outside".
I don't know, I wasn't there, and I didn't actually see the protest, I'm just guessing based on when I saw them doing it earlier in the year.
So nobody figured out where they're from yet?
Were u personally involved in this previous protest earlier in the year? You seem particularly keen to defend the rights of these bigots?
Blagsta
Minimum cage, maximum cage
If they have the right to protest, then so do others. Duh.
ajdown
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No, I have never been involved in anything even remotely connected to an abortion clinic.
I'm just challenging the fact that people here seem to think that this particular subject is 'off limits' for protesting, yet have no problem supporting violent protests that happen to fit their own world view.
Try not to throw the word 'bigot' around so casually. It could easily be said about the eco-fascists that can't contemplate the fact that some people just don't care about their agenda.
I can see your point, believe it or not, to a degree. The right to protest should be unassailable, whatever the context - in theory anyway. If, for instance, anti-racist protestors can do their thing, then in (liberal) theory so the BNP should be able to.
I recognise the hypocrisy of my views, but fuck it. Sometimes theory goes out the window. These people were vile. If you're on this site aj, I assume you're not a total cunt, so don't defend em.
ajdown
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I'm not necessarily 'defending them' any more than explaining that they are within their rights and the law to do what they appeared to be doing - I don't know what they were standing for/against, what they were giving out, or what they were necessarily trying to achieve. Chances are they aren't even a local group.
I've been called 'a total cunt' and much worse by people on this forum - but I'm still here, so I carry on regardless. After all, I'm only a human like everyone else.
quimcunx
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Well it shouldn't. Those people think abortion is vile. We might think they are wrong and that their way of expressing their views is wrong but defending their right to express that view is not the same as defending their view.
I'd agree that they should be told to direct their protest at the lawmakers not at already vulnerable people going into the clinic. But from their point of view this tack is probably more likely to be effective.
Effective at what? Intimidating women into not having abortions? I don't think they should be allowed to be effective at that.
quimcunx
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Yes. That is what they want, to stop women having abortions. They presumably think that protesting outside abortion clinics is a more effective way of doing this than protesting outside parliament.
ajdown
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I didn't think anyone or anything was allowed to be protested outside Parliament any more?
