Kid_Eternity
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RenegadeDog said:
Yup, and one of the only two great films he's done too if you ask me...
In praise of Jaws.
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Yup, and one of the only two great films he's done too if you ask me...
Kid_Eternity said:
Hmmmm... thinking of his CV
Greats:
Jaws
Raiders of the Lost Ark
ET
Empire of the Sun
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
Minority Report
Schindler's List
Kid_Eternity
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Raiders of the Lost Ark - good not greatRenegadeDog said:
ET - good as a kid crap now
Empire of the Sun - boring
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - average at best
Minority Report - crap, fucking Tom Cruise ffs
Schindler's List - not very good despite the subject matter
You forgot one of his most recent:
Munich - excellent his second great film imho
Johnny Canuck3
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You also forgot Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
You see, despite the fact that I usually can't abide Tom Cruise, Minority Report is a very good film in my opinion. And last crusade is easily the best Indy film.
Personally I thought Munich was a bit boring TBH. Didn't get into it at all.
Re. Close Encounters, that's one I'm less keen on. It's alright. Just nothing great.
Personally I thought Munich was a bit boring TBH. Didn't get into it at all.
Re. Close Encounters, that's one I'm less keen on. It's alright. Just nothing great.
Johnny Canuck3
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....or Jurassic Park. Or Duel.
Duel's one i've been meaning to see for years but haven't.
Jurassic Park I found a bit... plastic.
Fantastic effects at the time, groundbreaking even, but the actual human characters lack the interest of some of his other films.
What about worst spielberg film? For me Hook is the outstanding candidate...
Jurassic Park I found a bit... plastic.
Fantastic effects at the time, groundbreaking even, but the actual human characters lack the interest of some of his other films.
What about worst spielberg film? For me Hook is the outstanding candidate...
Reno said:Its impact has been lessened by countless afternoon repeats on ITV where the tension got ruined by ad breaks, the violence got censored and the pan&scanning lopped off half of the wide screen image and ruined what was one of the best edited films of the 70's.
I remember seeing it when it first came out and it was one of those films that traumatised a generation. Difficult to imagine now but the audience I saw the film with was near hysterical with fear. I wouldn't put my head underwater in the bath tub for months after.
Very true - there was huge (and justified) hype surrounding this film when it was released, and seeing it on the big screen in a packed cinema added immeasurably to the sense of dread and anticipation.
Reno
The In Kraut
T & P said:
A.I. is one of his best films in my opinion and one of the few big budget science fiction films in recent years that was actually about ideas than just about action and special effects.
I'd nominate The Colour Purple as his worst. It's Spielberg at his most simplistic and emotionally manipulative in a story that didn't need the extra schmaltz to be moving. Tear jerking is perfectly fine when it comes to little space trolls, but it doesn't work as well when it comes to represent the lives of African American Women in the early 20th century.
Having said that I still always look forward to his films. He is one of the last big time Hollywood directors who actually understand the vocabulary of cinema.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
I disagree - was watching it a couple of days ago and noticed how clever it was - I liked especially the way it is filmed from waste height whenever the nasty adults are about, ie from the kids'/ET's perspective - it's a fantastic film even nowKid_Eternity said:
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
It's all in the editing, which Spielberg wasn't involved with, yet he got all the credit - he's proven himself since mindT & P said:
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
It's crap! See, not impossible!RenegadeDog said:
Orang Utan said:It's crap! See, not impossible!
I'm sure that was a joke, you know what I meant
May Kasahara
take me to the feeling
"a cloud...in the shape...of a killer shark"
Johnny Canuck3
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RenegadeDog said:
Duel's very good.
Are you saying that about the first Jurassic Park, at the time you first saw it, or now, after two sequels?
Johnny Canuck3
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T & P said:
Minority Report is Spielberg's worst movie.
JAWS I & II actually featured real shark footage shot by an accomplished shark-filming duo, whose names I forget - after that they dropped out, possibly because the films weren't creating the kind of PR for our watery friend that was really desirable. That left a silly model for Jaws III...T & P said:
Reno
The In Kraut
Jazzz said:
There was a little bit of real shark footage in the underwater scenes in Jaws, but most the shark action was performed by a malfunctioning hydraulic shark named Bruce by the crew. In sequels part 2, 3 and 4, none of which had anything to do with Spielberg, they got better mechanical sharks but the films were shit.
Threshers_Flail
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The color purple is dire. I remember thinking how it must be good, the little description in the paper sounded good, and it was Spielberg, but it was garbage. Actually, looking at all his filmography there isn't much gripping, intense movies you would expect from a great, too much hollow hollywood crap.
Kid_Eternity
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Orang Utan said:
Watched some of it the other day, still crap.
Johnny Canuck2 said:
The first one, the first time I saw it. I honestly was blown away by the dinos, but just didn't think the human characters were up to scratch by Spielberg's usual standards.
Johnny Canuck2 said:
If you think that, then you either a. have no taste or b. can't have seen the atrocity that was 'Hook'.
Johnny Canuck3
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RenegadeDog said:
I hated minority report.
I liked Hook. I had young kids at the time, so watching it with them might have allowed me to suspend my penchant for adult-style disapproval.
Robin Williams is excellent in it: the perfect role for him. Julia Roberts was acceptable, because she was the size of a miniature fairy. Hoffman was good also.
It's a retelling of Peter Pan; were you expecting Tolstoy?
Johnny Canuck3
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RenegadeDog said:
The main characters are the dinosaurs. It's one of the first blockbuster movies of its type, and it fulfils the bill well. Perhaps that's its major indictment: because of its success, we've been subjected to the revamping of the film business into a blockbuster-maker instead of a movie maker.
But the film, taken by itself, is a great achievement.
Johnny Canuck2 said:
Of course not. It just was an awful telling of the story.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
Iwas a little tabloid I guess.Reno said:
Verna Fields I believe did all the editing - she did get an Oscar for it, so I guess she did get a little credit for it. It's just that she saved the film, not Spiedlberg, so you could say that he owes her his career.
Reno
The In Kraut
Orang Utan said:
Spielberg got a good editor in Verna Fields to edit Jaws, but that doesn't mean he wasn't involved. A director sits next to the editor for most of the post production and they make decision together. Every film has an editor and Spielberg was lucky that he had a first rate one for this, but that doesn't mean he wasn't involved in the editing or that he doesn't deserve the credit for how the film turned out. Film is a collaborative effort and the editor is just one element in the mix.
Orang Utan
Maybe I like the misery
Point taken
