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I'm sick of this bullshit

tarannau said:
The 60s were shite mostly too. Ken Dodd had more than one No1 , as did Benny Hill. And don't get me started on those unbearably twee Liverpudlian cunts, the Beatles or something...

;)

Ken Dodd is a legend!

And The Beatles late stuff was great imo.

But yes I am also sick of this bullshit.

Saturday night I had a proper hissy fit at Rollem, who likes all this shite.

X-Factor sends me fucking mental. :mad:
 
foo said:
while i'm at it - can anyone answer me this?

my colleague of course denies that he's a snob. :rolleyes:

(it is relevant to thread i reckon)

Dont worry - these types usually get purged shortly after any succesful revolution.
 
In the light of this endless stream of TV-manufactured instant celebs, I've had to reappraise the likes of E17 and Take That.

Both still shite, of course, but at least they could write their own songs, play (some) instruments and did some work to get to the top.
 
Anyway, talent shows are nothing new, anyone my age will remeber the horrors of Opportunity Knocks and New Faces, responsible for foisting the likes of Lena Zavaroni on us.
 
editor said:
at least they could write their own songs, play (some) instruments and did some work to get to the top.

what does it matter if people write their own songs or not? really?
 
people who didn't write their own songs or play their own instruments

Diana Ross, Elvis, Frank Sinatra, Dusty Springfield

etc

etc

etc

rubbish argument
 
milesy said:
what does it matter if people write their own songs or not? really?
It suggests that there's more to them than just an ability to competently trot out songs written by lurking popmeisters.

Of course, there have been some exceptional non-writing singers (Sinatra, Presley etc) but they tend to have approx 4 trillion tons more charisma and originality than the standard chart-friendly, ultra-bland pop fare being churned through the industry at the moment.
 
The Monkees didnt write their own songs or play their own instruments and they were one of the best groups ever :p
 
editor said:
It suggests that there's more to them than just an ability to competently trot out songs written by lurking popmeisters.

what about actors who don't write their own scripts?
 
Dubversion said:
people who didn't write their own songs or play their own instruments

Diana Ross, Elvis, Frank Sinatra, Dusty Springfield
rubbish argument
All from a completely different era, of course.

Plus see my point above.
 
foo said:
fuckin well argued milesy!

wot you got to say to that then zeddy? :D

my colleague (and mate) has just been moaning about all the 'dumbing down' on tv, with xfactor/big brother/i'm a celeb etc. a gaurdian reading self proclaiming socialist.....shame he hates anything the proles are into innit.

why are so many so called left-wingers such fucking snobs?! :eek:

<strangles colleague with mouse lead> :mad: :D

Because fooey, it drags too many people (very young people in particular) into believing that these people actually have any real talent and that this process of identifying 'talent' has any merit.

The only merit shows like The X Factor have is to make a small number of people a pile of cash.

The only purpose a show like this really has is to hold up a mirror to the rest of UK society and reveal them to be a bunch of lazy, fat ignorant cunts for cheering this process on.

The producers of this shit must sit back and laugh their arses off every year at just how gullible so many people are.

Money for old rope.

The ultimate statement on The X Factor is that the only part of the show that is even remotely watchable is the early stages when the white trash of our society line up to willingly have their dignity shredded before millions of viewers.

How fucking sad is that?

I'd have more respect for the makers of this crap if they called it 'The Pub Singer Of The Year Show'. Or 'King Of Karaoke'.

At least that would be honest.
 
Belushi said:
Dont worry - these types usually get purged shortly after any succesful revolution.

LOL, no they don't, they're the ones organising it. :p

Anyway, I've no idea what this thread is about, I've been too busy listening to King's College Carols dontchaknow. ;)
 
Belushi said:
The Monkees didnt write their own songs or play their own instruments and they were one of the best groups ever :p
They were actors and Nesmith wrote some songs, but - to repeat - I'm not saying that all great modern singers have to write their own songs to be classed as good, but in the face of an endless stream of identkit TV-spawned products, it certainly would be a bonus.

I actually feel sorry for many of the contestants in those shows who get catapulted into barely-earned uber-nova fame, only to most likely end up on their arses a few years later.
 
Dubversion said:
people who didn't write their own songs or play their own instruments

Diana Ross, Elvis, Frank Sinatra, Dusty Springfield

etc

etc

etc

rubbish argument

Pub singers ...the lot of them.

Except Elvis.

He was a 'chicken n' chips in a basket' cabaret singer.
 
zed said:
The only purpose a show like this really has is to hold up a mirror to the rest of UK society and reveal them to be a bunch of lazy, fat ignorant cunts for cheering this process on...

...I'd have more respect for the makers of this crap if they called it 'The Pub Singer Of The Year Show'. Or 'King Of Karaoke'.

At least that would be honest.

I'd have more respect for the poster of this inconsistent, logically-challenged crap if he gave himself the tag 'tiresome tryhard wannabee Littlejon.' Or 'Selfimportant pontificating twazzock of the year'

At least that would be honest
 
tarannau said:
I'd have more respect for the poster of this inconsistent, logically-challenged crap if he gave himself the tag 'tiresome tryhard wannabee Littlejon.' Or 'Selfimportant pontificating twazzock of the year'

At least that would be honest

I think he's trying to be controversial. Zzzzzzzz...
 
zed said:
The only purpose a show like this really has is to hold up a mirror to the rest of UK society and reveal them to be a bunch of lazy, fat ignorant cunts for cheering this process on.
...
The ultimate statement on The X Factor is that the only part of the show that is even remotely watchable is the early stages when the white trash of our society line up to willingly have their dignity shredded before millions of viewers.

so if people watch and enjoy the x-factor they must be lazy, fat and ignorant? you assume that they can only like this type of entertainment and have to be spoon fed everything, i take it, and only buy "chart" music?

and as for the bit about what the only "watchable" bit about x-factor being, that's just your opinion - which you're perfectly entitled to - but then you are stating that opinoin as fact and then using that fact to make a statement about society. it doesn't stand up really :)
 
:D

I'm not trying to be controversial ...it just happens to be what I think. Sorry if you don't agree with what I say or how I say it.

Sure Elvis was a very important part of contemporary musics evolution, until the 60's. Then he inexplicably became a jaded crooner like that other over-hyped gangster Sinatra. I'm not denying they had stage prescence and the ability to hold a tune ...but they were hardly musical greats were they? The term 'greatness' has to be reserved for people with a bit more than nice singing voices surely?

Maybe we've just got different ideas of what talent really is.

When's the next series of Stars In Their Eyes anyway?
 
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