Ike Turner Deaded.

[Johnny Canuck3]

I wasn't referring to you by the way Johnny. It was the judgemental tone of people. I remember when I was a kid the biggest bastards used to have a few days where no one spoke ill of the dead. He did some awful things but....

I don't know him. He's just some guy in the newspaper, aside from that one time that I saw him and Tina at the Sportsplex. It was a pretty good concert.

 

[Sweaty Betty]

That's very sad Johnny that a man that did so much will be remembered as a wife beater. Still he who is without sin can cast the first stone I suppose.

It pisses me off that wife beaters as long as they had some modicum of musical greatness are excused and exalted

That goes for James lock your wife up brown


sorry its just a bugbear of mine

 

[brianx]

He didn't actually do that much.

He did. He made mistakes that he has to take with him wherever he is now. He was awarded a Grammy earlier this year and is credited with writing the first ever rock 'n' roll song. That's quite some bookends of musical history.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

He did. He made mistakes that he has to take with him wherever he is now..

He's a corpse that's going to rot. The baggage has fallen by the wayside.

 

[brianx]

It pisses me off that wife beaters as long as they had some modicum of musical greatness are excused and exalted

That goes for James lock your wife up brown


sorry its just a bugbear of mine

Sorry Betty. Wife-beaters are scum bags and deserve no sympathy but when a man dies perhaps we should hold judgement for a couple of days. He saw his dad lynched as a very small boy. Anyone would feel angry in these circumstances. I understand as a woman where you're coming from and I do respect this but he had a very hard upbringing.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Sorry Betty. Wife-beaters are scum bags and deserve no sympathy but when a man dies perhaps we should hold judgement for a couple of days. He saw his dad lynched as a very small boy. Anyone would feel angry in these circumstances. I understand as a woman where you're coming from and I do respect this but he had a very hard upbringing.

"Damn, my dad got lynched, twenty years ago. Get the fuck over here, bitch! "

 

[Disaster]

It pisses me off that wife beaters as long as they had some modicum of musical greatness are excused and exalted

That goes for James lock your wife up brown


sorry its just a bugbear of mine

We only ever heard Tina's side of the story, and it was obviously massively exaggerated in the media. His historic role in rock's beginnings has clearly been ignored.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

We only ever heard Tina's side of the story, and it was obviously massively exaggerated in the media. He was a music great.

What stopped him from telling his side?


'She turned the corner, and just ran into my fist, officer.'

 

[Sweaty Betty]

Sorry Betty. Wife-beaters are scum bags and deserve no sympathy but when a man dies perhaps we should hold judgement for a couple of days. He saw his dad lynched as a very small boy. Anyone would feel angry in these circumstances. I understand as a woman where you're coming from and I do respect this but he had a very hard upbringing.

Bernard manning didnt get that grace on here, and im sure as hell know maggie aint gonna get it either.....

They had hard upbringings as well ...

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

We only ever heard Tina's side of the story, and it was obviously massively exaggerated in the media. His historic role in rock and roll beginnings has clearly been ignored.

He was one of those black guys you run across who survive on the coattails of a strong woman.

 

[brianx]

Aw well. Let's have a chart which is wanker free. Coldplay and Aled Jones No's 1-10 with Jamie Cullum bringing up the rear.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Aw well. Let's have a chart which is wanker free. Coldplay and Aled Jones No's 1-10 with Jamie Cullum bringing up the rear.

Yeah, no one is without fault, but how many are weak fucking assholes who show their inadequacy by beating up women?

 

[Sweaty Betty]

Aw well. Let's have a chart which is wanker free. Coldplay and Aled Jones No's 1-10 with Jamie Cullum bringing up the rear.

being a wanker like blunt and beating your wife are totally different...

 

[Disaster]

He didn't actually do that much.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Fucking wife beating asshole.

 

[Disaster]

You can't remember him for that on its own, though. You obviously don't have a clue about his contribution to modern music, I shan't bother.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

You can't remember him for that on its own, though. You obviously don't have a clue about his contribution to music.

I remember Ike and Tina for the music. River Deep, Mountain High, Nutbush, etc, all of which I love.

Ike on his own, I think of as a wife beating asshole who could play guitar. Lots of people can play guitar.

 

[Disaster]

Damn, you keep getting in there before I have chance to edit my posts.

 

[brianx]

Yeah, no one is without fault, but how many are weak fucking assholes who show their inadequacy by beating up women?

As T-P said I'm going to fucking bed. No one's supporting wife beaters. No one. But I'm sad the old bastard has gone. He had a hard life and deserves some respect for his age and what he did in life. He was a wanker sometimes and I'm sure that in his darkest hours he'd admit this but fucking hell. If every bloke that hit his wife (of his generation) was vilified we'd only have Cliff Richard to give a good send off. No one under fifty would ever dream of doing this but he's a different generation with different rules.

 

[El Jefe]

Ike on his own, I think of as a wife beating asshole who could play guitar. Lots of people can play guitar.

If you think that's all he did, you don't have a clue.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

As T-P said I'm going to fucking bed. No one's supporting wife beaters. No one. But I'm sad the old bastard has gone.

I'm not. I couldn't care less.

But, for the old times...

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

No one under fifty would ever dream of doing this but he's a different generation with different rules.

Did your father beat your mother?

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

If you think that's all he did, you don't have a clue.

Grade b bluesman, until he met Tina.

Ike Turner's actual music career began in earnest in the late-1940s where he formed a group whom he christened The Kings of Rhythm. In 1951, the band recorded what historians have debated as "the first rock and roll record"[4] with "Rocket 88", listed on the charts as Jackie Brenston and His Delta Cats. Brenston was both the band's saxophonist and the leading vocalist of the song and Turner was the original writer though credits initially stated that Brenston had written it also. The song was one of the first examples of guitar distortion, which happened by accident when one of the amplifiers dropped before the recording. Ike and the Kings of Rhythm settled into local fame in St. Louis where the band locally recorded for a St. Louis label and even appeared on local television shows. Throughout this early period, Turner became a recording scout and A&R man for independent record companies including Sun Records - where "Rocket 88" was recorded, helping the likes of Howlin' Wolf, Sonny Boy Williamson, Elmore James and Otis Rush get signed. He also became a sideman playing guitar for these blues acts and more. Musically, Turner was known for his hard-hitting guitar style. He was known to put the whammy bar of his Fender Stratocaster to frequent use.

Turner's music career changed drastically after meeting a teenage singer from Nutbush, Tennessee, named Anna Mae Bullock, who demandingly grabbed a microphone during a singing session at one of St. Louis' nightspots and sang a BB King song in her now-trademark throated raspy vocals.

 

[brianx]

I'm not. I couldn't care less.

But, for the old times...

See what I mean Johnny how did he make an acoustic guitar sound like that? That's fucking great BTW.

 

[Sweaty Betty]

Did your father beat your mother?

Well he has trotted out the two obvious excuses that wife beater apologists churn out...

He had a hard life


It was different back then

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

See what I mean Johnny how did he make an acoustic guitar sound like that? That's fucking great BTW.

Yeah, he could play pretty well. Too bad that his legacy is his facility with using his fists against women.

 

[brianx]

Did your father beat your mother?

No. But he was new old school and didn't have anything to prove.

 

[Sweaty Betty]

No. But he was new old school and didn't have anything to prove.

well fuck me, thats hitler off the hook as well.....

 

[brianx]

well fuck me, thats hitler off the hook as well.....

Hitler knew my mother or was that Lloyd George.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

Hitler knew my mother or was that Lloyd George.

Do you have a moustache?