If you wanna boycott Israel get off your fucking computer!!

[Peet]

The synthetic State exists by international law

And a lot of guns. You don't need the law if you have the guns. Most armed... most free.

 

[Luther Blissett]

http://www.enoughoccupation.org/enough

 

[ViolentPanda]

And a lot of guns. You don't need the law if you have the guns. Most armed... most free.

Most deluded.

You need to study insurgency,

 

[moono]

Lol.

You won't be expecting any quarter then, peet, when the time comes. It's something that's been troubling me .

 

[ZAMB]

And a lot of guns. You don't need the law if you have the guns. Most armed... most free.

No - most armed...most repressive.

 

[ZAMB]

Personally I don't see why Israel even bothers to supply Pealestinians with electricity and water. If they want a country, they should build one like the jews did. But that would involve temporarily laying off slaughtering each other.

Gosh yes - they are such humanitarians - they steal Palestines water and do not allow the people to dig wells on their own property - and they destroy their electricity plants. Here's a few links to get you started. [below] And the Jews did not build a country - they stole it and turned it into an American-style military-industrial complex - with a fer bantustans for the inhabitants that weren't driven out or slaughtered.

POISONING ACRE WATER SUPPLY: In the wake of Haifa's occupation on 23 April 1948 by the Zionists, under the nose of the British Mandate forces commended by General Stockwell, a man still historically discredited for this failure, thousands converged on Acre, a nearby city, which was still Arab under the "protection" of the British forces.

Acre was to be the next Zionist target. The Zionists besieged the city from the land side, and started showering the population with a hail of mortar bombs day and night. Famous for its historical walls, Acre could stand the siege for a long time. The city water supply comes from a nearby village, Kabri, about 10kms to the north, through an aqueduct. The Zionists injected typhoid in the aqueduct at some intermediate point which passes through Zionist settlements. (see map)

The story can now be told, thanks to the International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) files which have now become available, 50 years after the event. A series of reports, under the reference G59/1/GC, G3/82, sent by ICRC delegate de Meuron from 6 May to about 19 May 1948 describe the conditions of the city population, struck by a sudden typhoid epidemic, and the efforts to combat it.
http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2003/627/focus.htm

* The UN has criticised Israel's bombing, which has caused an estimated $1.8bn in damage to the electricity grid and leaving more than a million people without regular access to drinking water.

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=10918

You should also perhaps take a look at the WHO report on the occupation at
http://domino.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/db...cd16d98dc2f49e21052567ed00532e7b!OpenDocument

 

[Peet]

No - most armed...most repressive.

I dunno, the UK is pretty well armed we're quite free because of it. I'm sure your average israeli jew feels the same way.

 

[Peet]

You should also perhaps take a look at the WHO report on the occupation at
http://domino.un.org/UNISPAL.NSF/db...cd16d98dc2f49e21052567ed00532e7b!OpenDocument

" The purpose of this report is to provide a realistic view of the health conditions of the inhabitants of the occupied Arab territories, which have deteriorated seriously since the start of the courageous intifada."

So that's gonna be balanced.

 

[moono]

Of course the Intifada was courageous, a response to Sharon's goading and a response in the face of heavy odds .

What is 'courage' from the Zionist/fascist position ?

 

[ZAMB]

I dunno, the UK is pretty well armed we're quite free because of it. I'm sure your average israeli jew feels the same way.

We are free because we're armed? you're deluding yourself. Most of our population do not support our govt's military adventures into the realms of repression and war crimes. Tony Blair is buying new nukes in defiance of the terms of the NPT to protect us from whom?

 

[newharper]

Clearly this man hates himself, and he writes in Haaretz ffs.

The author is a professor of psychology at Tel Aviv University.

Here, I believe, resides the deepest reason for Israel’s reluctance to actively engage with the Saudi initiative. Israeli public discourse and national consciousness have never come to terms with the idea, accepted by historians of all venues today, that Israel actively drove 750,000 Palestinians from their homes in 1947/8 and hence has at least partial responsibility for the Palestinian Nakba.

This has not happened to this very day because this idea is seen as undermining the foundation of the Zionist enterprise and the legitimacy of Israel’s existence. It is as if we were locked into an insoluble dilemma: Either we deny responsibility for the Nakba, or we need to accept that we have no right to be here.

This is the source of the deep fear that prevents Israel from meeting the Arab world face to face and saying “we are here, and we believe that you accept our existence.” Since Israel has not come to terms with its part in the historical responsibility for the Palestinian Nakba, it cannot truly believe that Arabs could accept our presence in the Middle East. We are locked into a vacillation between self-images of either all-good or all-bad, and hence continue the occupation of the territories, with all the horrors it includes, because the idea of Israel being guilty of anything is still equated with the denial of our right to be here.

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/06/10/1777/

 

[Peet]

We are free because we're armed? you're deluding yourself. Most of our population do not support our govt's military adventures into the realms of repression and war crimes. Tony Blair is buying new nukes in defiance of the terms of the NPT to protect us from whom?

The reason Europe never fell to the soviet empire was because we were armed to the teeth.

It's not about protection it's about deterrence.

The peace and stability we know in western Europe is a historical anomaly.

 

[ZAMB]

The reason Europe never fell to the soviet empire was because we were armed to the teeth.

Total BS - like your other postings.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

In the final analysis all I see is an arab muslim refusal to allow Jews a peaceful existence. Nothing new there.

Having fled from persecution from europeans and arab muslims they were granted by the international community a fragment of their spiritual home, mostly comprised of desert on the condition that if they want a country they'd have to build it.

They built one and arabs have never accepted it. Every major war against jews has been started by muslims and I don't blame Israeli Jews for not trusting them and doing whatever it takes to ensure their survival as a nation and people. That is their right.

Palestinians have been given billions in aid and had more attention than they deserve compared with more pressing refugee problems and yet still they pin all their woes on Israel instead of accepting responsibility for their own destiny, starting with reforming their own corrupt leadership.

Personally I don't see why Israel even bothers to supply Pealestinians with electricity and water. If they want a country, they should build one like the jews did. But that would involve temporarily laying off slaughtering each other.

I wish Israel would hurry up and buy some CRAM batteries and stop making such a big deal of a half dozen pissy little rockets and leave them to rot. Aid is obviously a waste of effort.

stares in disbleif not sure whether to piss myself in fear of the idocy or with laughter of it...

adolf hitler al arabia hussian nope can't help myself rotflma ....

 

[ZAMB]

stares in disbleif not sure whether to piss myself in fear of the idocy or with laughter of it...

adolf hitler al arabia hussian nope can't help myself rotflma ....

It isn't very funny to the people of Palestine though. I have decided to free myself from such ranting by sending peet and warren to join rach on my ignore list. There is no point trying to have dialogue with these people - their minds are shut to any opinions which do not coincide with their own narrow view of the world.

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

It isn't very funny to the people of Palestine though. I have decided to free myself from such ranting by sending peet and warren to join rach on my ignore list. There is no point trying to have dialogue with these people - their minds are shut to any opinions which do not coincide with their own narrow view of the world.

Oh i don't know there are pleanty within the occupied terrories who tink in this manner and in order to remvoe them you have to enguage them... like most things in life the ingore button isn't really an option...