If the Mona Lisa didn't exist, what would the default Greatest Painting be?

Discussion in 'photography, graphics & art' started by Santino, Mar 26, 2018.

  1. killer b

    killer b Nostrofuckingdamus

    My problem was stating theory as fact. It's a theory, and while it may have some evidence to support it, it isn't uncontested. I don't think the evidence is strong enough to say it with certainty.

    However he created the paintings, they remain some of the most glorious works of art ever created, and he was a peerless genius.
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  2. JimW

    JimW 支那暗杀团

    Fair enough, I have no expertise on this at all. Just struck me that he seems the main proponent, though noticed a comment on the Amazon link saying Hockney said similar,
  3. Stanley Edwards

    Stanley Edwards 1967 Maserati Mistral. R.I.P.

    When did artists not use technology as it became available? The idea that using a camera in anyway is cheating is total bollocks.

    The influence cameras had on composition is probably something worth discussing much more. The viewfinder changed the way many people saw pictures. Before that, most of the scenes presented and replicated were created as a stage. In both cases, the real skill of the artist is to express something beyond technical brilliance.
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  4. RoyReed

    RoyReed Must fly!

    Someone once told me that using a ruler was cheating.
  5. killer b

    killer b Nostrofuckingdamus

    no-one has called it cheating tbf.
  6. RoyReed

    RoyReed Must fly!

  7. killer b

    killer b Nostrofuckingdamus

    Not in my argument. I think Vermeer is the greatest painter ever, whatever techniques he used. I just don't think your mate's theory that he used a camera obscura is totally convincing.
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  8. Santino

    Santino lovelier than lovely

    Kenneth Clark mentions the possibility in Civilisation, so it's not even that recent a theory.
  9. killer b

    killer b Nostrofuckingdamus

    I'm glad we're all agreed it's a theory.
  10. Santino

    Santino lovelier than lovely

    Yes, like evolution by natural selection.
  11. killer b

    killer b Nostrofuckingdamus

    Great. Last night I'm compared with a holocaust denier, today I'm a creationist.
  12. killer b

    killer b Nostrofuckingdamus

    ...at least Vermeer had some sense of perspective.

  13. copliker

    copliker ...

    This Jon McNaughton has a chicken in it.

    jon mcnaughton.jpg

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