If the Mona Lisa didn't exist, what would the default Greatest Painting be?

Discussion in 'photography, graphics & art' started by Santino, Mar 26, 2018.

  1. RainbowTown

    RainbowTown Well-Known Member

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    So, so many to choose from...but this would certainly be a contender.
     
  2. Mrs Miggins

    Mrs Miggins There's been a slight cheese accident

    Flippant answer:
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  3. Gromit

    Gromit International Man of Misery

    By greatest all you really mean is most famous...

    Second most famous would be Van Go's Sunflowers but as he did several the fame is split.

    Which leaves Rembrandt's Night Watch.

    None of which are truly the greatest.
     
  4. littlebabyjesus

    littlebabyjesus one of Maxwell's demons

    I'm sure Leonardo is extremely well-known, but I'd guess that the Mona Lisa is better-known, that there are people who know the painting but not the artist.

    Not sure that's true about van Gogh, but it would be true about Vermeer or Munch. The Scream is a good shout. Definitely passes butchers' Simpsons test.

    Does anyone know how long the Mona Lisa has been the most famous painting in the world?
     
  5. Gromit

    Gromit International Man of Misery

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  6. Gromit

    Gromit International Man of Misery

    Which one?
     
  7. Lupa

    Lupa Well-Known Member

  8. Mrs Miggins

    Mrs Miggins There's been a slight cheese accident

    If we're being serious about this, it would have to be something equally old and most likely also from the Italian Renaissance. Something that has been revered for a long time. I seem to remember from the few art history classes I've taken that at some point (Victorians?) it was decided that this era was the pinnacle of human creation. (Help me people with more knowledge!).

    So I think dessiato is probably on to something with the Birth of Venus. I have an issue with that as being the world's greatest (by which I think we mean most popular) painting though as it's a bit old and not as naturalistic as later painting for many people's taste. It requires some knowledge of the subject matter to understand what it's about rather than the simple impact of a portrait. Girl with a Pearl Earring is definitely a contender although I'm not sure the Dutch masters received quite the same level of reverence as the Italians when all this revering was going on.

    Or we could just carry on posting our favourite paintings which is fine by me :)
     
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  9. Lupa

    Lupa Well-Known Member

    Ok....renaissance art then?

    Rembrandt... self portrait with two circles.

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  10. Sprocket.

    Sprocket. Because I chose to play the fool.....

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    Portrait of Giovanna Tournabuoni by Domenico Ghirlandaio 1488.
     
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  11. Pickman's model

    Pickman's model every man and every woman is a star

  12. Lupa

    Lupa Well-Known Member

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  13. strung out

    strung out (",)

  14. Lupa

    Lupa Well-Known Member

    There's that 3 pronged fork again....tsk.tsk.
     
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  15. Mrs Miggins

    Mrs Miggins There's been a slight cheese accident

    Nice sausage dam :)
     
  16. Mrs Miggins

    Mrs Miggins There's been a slight cheese accident

  17. Bonfirelight

    Bonfirelight Crocodile

    I seem to remember it was considerably later than when it was painted.
     
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  18. Mrs Miggins

    Mrs Miggins There's been a slight cheese accident

    Looked this up this afternoon and it only became famous when it was stolen from the Louvre in 1911. Which explains a lot as it's really not all that.
     
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  19. Mrs Miggins

    Mrs Miggins There's been a slight cheese accident

    Wayhey! This fella's always good for a laugh :)
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  20. dessiato

    dessiato Because I could not stop for death

    I'm not sure about his attitude. It seems a little cavalier.
     
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  21. SheilaNaGig

    SheilaNaGig Struggling and striving

    If we’re thinking if something that would take the place of the Mona Lisa, it would have to hit all the same notes in terms of when and how it would have been shown and indicated over the same time span. So yes, in the Simpsons but also in schools and on posters and postcards. Easily recogniseable in term states of shape, outline, so easy to parody and copy too.

    So I think it would have to show a human full face, probably a woman, not a nude (otherwise the Birth of Venus would probably be the Greatest Painting In The World anyway). And probably not a religious painting either, otherwise it already would be a Madonna or a Pieta or something Jesus-y.

    Girl with Pearl Earring hits all those targets.


    ETA And something that someone wanted to steal so it could become so famous. So not enormous.
     
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  22. Bonfirelight

    Bonfirelight Crocodile

    That's the one, cheers
     
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  23. dessiato

    dessiato Because I could not stop for death

    The Athena tennis girl poster fits a lot of those criteria.
     
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  24. SheilaNaGig

    SheilaNaGig Struggling and striving


    Lady with an Ermine probably hits most of these targets.
     
  25. mrsfran

    mrsfran Slightly less bulbous

    I think you'd have to go with Starry Night, Waterlillies, Birth of Venus or Girl with a Pearl Earring. I'd like the Arnolfini Portrait in there too, but perhaps that's not well-known enough.

    The Last Supper too. Sunday Afternoon on the Island of La Grand Jatte?
     
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  26. Mrs Miggins

    Mrs Miggins There's been a slight cheese accident

    My first choice above is almost the anti-greatest by those criteria :D
     
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  27. SheilaNaGig

    SheilaNaGig Struggling and striving


    Except it’s her bum from behind, so not a face. But yes. That’s probably why she’s so famous too.
     
  28. Mrs Miggins

    Mrs Miggins There's been a slight cheese accident

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  29. Mrs Miggins

    Mrs Miggins There's been a slight cheese accident

    That is so beatiful. I can't stop looking at it.
     
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  30. Corax

    Corax Luke 5:16

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