If God made heaven and earth, who made hell?

[girasol]

Man created God and Evil therefore Man is both God and Evil and also this BIG GOD you speak of...

simple

 

[phildwyer]

I don't really believe in angels (or Satan, coz satan's meant to be an angel) either. From a theological point of view there's no real point to them, since they're not divine and they don't really have free will or anything, they can't actually do anything apart from what G-d tells them to do, so I'm inclined to think they don't actually exist apart from a metaphor for G-d's power in the world.

Well, "metaphor" isn't quite right. As their names imply, the angels are different aspects of our experience of God: Raphael = "medicine of God," Gabriel = "strength of God" etc. Satan (ie "accuser" or "enemy") is what happens when we dislike or resent God, seeing him as a "sadist" (as someone on this thread put it) and therefore as our enemy.

 

[max_freakout]

Man created God and Evil therefore Man is both God and Evil and also this BIG GOD you speak of...

simple

comprescence of opposites innit

 

[girasol]

comprescence of opposites innit

I've no idea what comprescence means but I like the sound of it.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Man created God and Evil therefore Man is both God and Evil and also this BIG GOD you speak of...

simple

Yep.

 

[forked brain]

So what's the answer babyjesus, or it it just our perception you're trying so feebly to steal

 

[Jambooboo]

Hell is any place where God is not. And if you're a bad boy God will abandon you, and you'll wail and gnash your teeth in hell for eternity or something.

 

[forked brain]

Hell is any place where God is not. And if you're a bad boy God will abandon you, and you'll wail and gnash your teeth in hell for eternity or something.

fuck off

 

[forked brain]

Inserts irony tablet

 

[inflatable jesus]

Loki and Angrboða. It was a combined effort

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

I think hell is just the ghetto side of heaven.

 

[forked brain]

There is no heaven and there is no hell

 

[inflatable jesus]

Way to ruin the surprise.

 

[max_freakout]

I've no idea what comprescence means but I like the sound of it.

Compresence just means 'present in the same place at the same time'. Socrates argued we can never become aware of the idea of 'equality' (as an example) without simultaneously becoming aware of the idea of inequality, because both qualities are compresent in any pair of objects. He used the idea of 2 sticks, in one sense they are 'equal', but at the same no 2 sticks are truly 'equal' so they are in fact unequal as well. That's why the equals sign '=' is in the shape of 2 sticks side by side

 

[WouldBe]

Well, "metaphor" isn't quite right. As their names imply, the angels are different aspects of our experience of God: Raphael = "medicine of God," Gabriel = "strength of God" etc. Satan (ie "accuser" or "enemy") is what happens when we dislike or resent God, seeing him as a "sadist" (as someone on this thread put it) and therefore as our enemy.

So god created satan and god created hell in which to torture satan yet god isn't a sadist.

 

[boozybirdie]

And if God made it then what the fuck was he playing at?!?!

But if he didnt then someone else must have.....Evil God (the devil), or Big God (god & the devils dad/god).

Either way there is more than one God now.

I'm writing to the pope at this very moment to make him aware of this new amendment. I'll let you know what he says.

I had the blueprints for hell but somebody stole them so I can only take half the credit for hell.

 

[phildwyer]

So god created satan and god created hell in which to torture satan yet god isn't a sadist.

That's right. As I said before, Satan *is* the idea that God is a sadist.

 

[WouldBe]

That's right. As I said before, Satan *is* the idea that God is a sadist.

I'm a capricorn so have the hooves and horns too.


Nutter.

 

[phildwyer]

Nutter.

Thicko.

 

[Yetman]

I don't really believe in angels (or Satan, coz satan's meant to be an angel) either. From a theological point of view there's no real point to them, since they're not divine and they don't really have free will or anything, they can't actually do anything apart from what G-d tells them to do, so I'm inclined to think they don't actually exist apart from a metaphor for G-d's power in the world.

Like the way you've avoided being smited by not saying the overlords full name there

One take on hell that i think is cool, God created man, and created the angels to serve man, all the angels were happy to serve man except one, namely Satan, who didn't want to bow to man because he loved God so much the only person he wanted to bow to was God himself, so he refused to serve man, and God was angry that Satan had disobeyed him, so he cast him out of heaven.

So Satan's only sin was loving God too much

And Satan maintained the constant torment of hell for all eternity, simply by playing the constant echo of God telling him to leave heaven .

So Satan cant have his own angels.......which leaves him on his own, against all of us, AND GOD! We'd fucking whup him?! Whats everyone so scared for?!

Loki and Angrboða. It was a combined effort

Whats with the weird d?

 

[boozybirdie]

Whats with the weird d?

It's the work of satan

 

[laptop]

It's the work of satan

Surely "Eth the work of Satan"?

 

[phildwyer]

So Satan cant have his own angels.......which leaves him on his own, against all of us, AND GOD! We'd fucking whup him?! Whats everyone so scared for?!

Satan's got tons of angels--fully a third of the original angels fell with him, by most estimates. Among the most powerful are Beelzebub, Moloch, Mammon and Belial. You wouldn't want to mess with any of them, trust me.

 

[Jambooboo]

Satan's got tons of angels--fully a third of the original angels fell with him, by most estimates. Among the most powerful are Beelzebub, Moloch, Mammon and Belial. You wouldn't want to mess with any of them, trust me.

Have you had a run in with them Phil?

 

[phildwyer]

Have you had a run in with them Phil?

Mammon stays far away from me, I'll tell you that much.

 

[Aldebaran]

If God made heaven and earth, who made hell?

You start from the assumption that the creation of earth (or the universe, if you like) came together with a creation of "heaven" and "hell".
If you follow that reasoning then logically there must be a heaven and hell for every aspect of creation,while usually (I would say almost exclusively) these are only brought in connection with humanity. (Personally I doubt the validity of such a reasoning but that is an other discussion entirely.)
When thinking about the existence of heaven and hell solely in context of the creation/existence of humanity it would be a more logical assumption that humanity itself "on itself" is responsible for their existence (= If there is no humanity, there is no necessity for heaven and/or hell to exist).

salaam.

 

[longdog]

Satan's got tons of angels--fully a third of the original angels fell with him, by most estimates. Among the most powerful are Beelzebub, Moloch, Mammon and Belial. You wouldn't want to mess with any of them, trust me.

Scource?

 

[Yetman]

Satan's got tons of angels--fully a third of the original angels fell with him, by most estimates. Among the most powerful are Beelzebub, Moloch, Mammon and Belial. You wouldn't want to mess with any of them, trust me.

Moloch's a fuckin pussy, he just hides behind his hard mates.

You can tell him I said that as well.

And if they are fallen angels, how come they've got such evil names? And whooooo the FUCK witnessed all this happening to pass the info down eh??