idiot christians.

[Lord Hugh]

Blagsta. Seeing as not a single person who knows me personally regards me as psychotic, perhaps you should consider the possibility that I'm not.

And after you've considered it, can you fuck off and not speak to me again.

Sirrah it seems a touchy subject. Maybe not the best idea to put touchy subjects up on the internet? Especially ones where you do not come off as mentally fit - in your own words? People are honestly trying to help here, I know that about these forums.

I think you can probably understand why people may not see you as being entirely sound of judgement after you posting a story about a court case where you were regarded as such many times, over the course of years, and not mentioning anything having changed mentally since then.

Personally I've seensome of your other posts and you seem well able to think.

Oh and also I'll mention that psychedelics were (possibly still are?) called "psychotomimetics" for a good reason - to the observer, someone on them will indeed exhibit symptoms of psychosis. Where the line lies, who knows.

 

[spanglechick]

Demosthenes, why did you write that long post about yourself using the third person? genuine q.

 

[Aldebaran]

Well, if you're interested, send me a pm. (I can't tell whether you're being sarcastic or not)

mmm...
In your OP you claim to be an expert on Jesus in a Christian context.
Next you post a story that has no relation to all that.
Therefore my question: Why do you say you are an expert on Jesus in a Christian context.

salaam.

 

[Lord Hugh]

Demosthenes, why did you write that long post about yourself using the third person? genuine q.

I was wondering that too.

 

[Demosthenes]

Demosthenes, why did you write that long post about yourself using the third person? genuine q.

It's traditional.

And in a way, reading it back, I think it works better that way. Besides which, it's an effect of distance.

 

[Demosthenes]

mmm...
In your OP you claim to be an expert on Jesus in a Christian context.
Next you post a story that has no relation to all that.
Therefore my question: Why do you say you are an expert on Jesus in a Christian context.

salaam.

I already told you, I'm not writing about it any further on the thread. I think it's clear enough. If you want further clarification, you're perfectly at liberty to PM me.

 

[Demosthenes]

Sirrah it seems a touchy subject. .

Of course it's a touchy subject. Seriously questioning someone's sanity is about as offensive as you can get.

 

[Structaural]

If ecstacy and acid are the body and blood of Christ - what are mushrooms and ayuhasca?

 

[Lord Hugh]

Blasphemy!!!

 

[Aldebaran]

I already told you, I'm not writing about it any further on the thread. I think it's clear enough. If you want further clarification, you're perfectly at liberty to PM me.

No, I don't PM you.
You started this thread with the intention to proclaim yourself the expert on Jesus in context of Christianity. The only thing that is clear is that you refuse to discuss you own OP in your own thread.
Why did you start this thread?

salaam.

 

[spanglechick]

It's traditional.

And in a way, reading it back, I think it works better that way. Besides which, it's an effect of distance.

The European and American tradition for autobiographical writing, regardless of relative time distance is to write in the first person.

Can I ask which tradition you are invoking? I find this sort of thing really interesting. I'm also aware I might sound sarcastic, and i don't want to be.

 

[Demosthenes]

If ecstacy and acid are the body and blood of Christ - what are mushrooms and ayuhasca?

I don't know, maybe they have the same potentiality. But I guess it's a potentiality rather than a fact, judging by the fact that nonbelievers don't get the same effect.

Why do people think it is that there was such an argument historically over whether the catholic church had the geniune power of turning the communion wine into the genuine blood of christ? You don't seriously think that anyone ever thought they were drinking physical blood do you?

Why did this argument only erupt about 1000 years after the establishment of institutional christianity?

 

[Blagsta]

Blagsta. Seeing as not a single person who knows me personally regards me as psychotic, perhaps you should consider the possibility that I'm not.

And after you've considered it, can you fuck off and not speak to me again.

You appear to be very delusional from what you write on here.

 

[Blagsta]

Of course it's a touchy subject. Seriously questioning someone's sanity is about as offensive as you can get.

If you post mad stuff then people are going to think you're mad. Simple really.

 

[Demosthenes]

Also, maybe I should add, on the subject of my mental health, that I was sectioned because I was suicidal, - that I was released after being there for less than two weeks without treatment or conditions, despite being in the uncomfortable position of having to tell the psychiatrist the full insane story of my life, so as not to undermine my defence. (as he had to do a report on my fitness to plead for the prosecution)

 

[Demosthenes]

You appear to be very delusional from what you write on here.

To you maybe, but not to everyone. I have friends who agree with me, and others who don't. But none of them think I'm mad.

 

[Demosthenes]

As it happens, I think your view of the world is delusional. But what can you expect, it's a very fucked-up civilisation.

 

[Lord Hugh]

Ok you're very defensive on this whole subject, may I ask why you posted it? Did you think everybody would be on your side in your believing you were jesus?

 

[Aldebaran]

Everyone's view of the world is delusional at its own level of perception.

salaam.

 

[Demosthenes]

Ok you're very defensive on this whole subject, may I ask why you posted it? Did you think everybody would be on your side in your believing you were jesus?

I posted it because a couple of people asked me to. And because I think it's an interesting story.

What makes you think I believe I'm Jesus. In any case, what would it mean to think you're Jesus? Obviously I'm not Jesus, I'm a different person, I have a different name, I live in a different time. How could I possibly be Jesus?

 

[spanglechick]

Also, Spanglechick, maybe I should add, on the subject of my mental health, that I was sectioned because I was suicidal, - that I was released after being there for less than two weeks without treatment or conditions, despite being in the uncomfortable position of having to tell the psychiatrist the full insane story of my life, so as not to undermine my defence. (as he had to do a report on my fitness to plead for the prosecution)

what's that got to do with my (admittedly slightly off topic) question about autobiographical conventions?

 

[8ball]

Everyone's view of the world is delusional at its own level of perception.

salaam.

 

[Demosthenes]

what's that got to do with my (admittedly slightly off topic) question about autobiographical conventions?

Oh, sorry, I blurred memory of different posts. I thought you were also questioning my sanity. Just looked back and saw that you weren't. It was just a general point, not for you specifically.

 

[Blagsta]

To you maybe, but not to everyone. I have friends who agree with me, and others who don't. But none of them think I'm mad.

They're probably too polite!

 

[Lord Hugh]

Hey man lighten up you're obviously still stressing about this whole issue.

Maybe it would be best to not bring up things that will make people question you? It surely must bring you back to the bad times.

Or do you like having something to be defensive against?

I don't know if you were saying you were jesus or not, that was the vague impression I got from reading between your widely-spaced lines.

 

[sleaterkinney]

I posted it because a couple of people asked me to. And because I think it's an interesting story.

What makes you think I believe I'm Jesus. In any case, what would it mean to think you're Jesus? Obviously I'm not Jesus, I'm a different person, I have a different name, I live in a different time. How could I possibly be Jesus?

what / who do you think you are?

Also, I think people are trying to help Demosthenes.

 

[Demosthenes]

Can I ask which tradition you are invoking? I find this sort of thing really interesting. I'm also aware I might sound sarcastic, and i don't want to be.

take a look at the gospels.

But, like I was saying, - it's partly about distance, - to some extent, although it's still very much my own history, it seems quite distant, slightly as if it happened to someone else. My life went pretty crazy in 1997, perhaps earlier, but I kept a lid on it till I finished university. And it went on like that for about ten years, till the court case was finished. Now it's relatively normal. But only relatively. Looking back on much of it, my memory is inexact. . I'd like to write it all down, but some of it is a bit of a blur. I wish I'd kept a diary.

 

[Demosthenes]

They're probably too polite!

No, wrong again, I'm afraid.

 

[spanglechick]

take a look at the gospels.

But, like I was saying, - it's partly about distance, - to some extent, although it's still very much my own history, it seems quite distant, slightly as if it happened to someone else. My life went pretty crazy in 1997, perhaps earlier, but I kept a lid on it till I finished university. And it went on like that for about ten years, till the court case was finished. Now it's relatively normal. But only relatively. Looking back on much of it, my memory is inexact. . I'd like to write it all down, but some of it is a bit of a blur. I wish I'd kept a diary.

ok - that makes sense. except the gospels bit. because obviously they aren't autobiographical. But yes, sometimes when I look back at myself I can't quite believe i'm the same person.

 

[Blagsta]

I'm Jesus!

No, I'm Jesus!

No, no, I'm Jesus!