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ID card 'preferred bidders' announced.

Backatcha Bandit

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BAE Systems Plc
Electronic Data Systems Corp.
International Business Machines Corp.
Accenture Ltd.
Fujitsu Ltd.
Computer Sciences Corp.
Groupe Steria SCA
Thales SA

As I understand it, only five of that eight get to share the £5.3 billion (heh... Yeah, right...) booty.

Nice to see IBM in there... With their years of experience, how can it fail?

IBM-one of the biggest in the world-custom-designed and leased the Hollerith card sorting system to the Third Reich for use at Bergen-Belsen and most of the other concentration camps. International Business Machines also serviced its machines almost monthly, and trained Nazi personnel to use the intricate systems. Duplicate copies of code books were kept in IBM's offices in case field books were lost. What's more, his company was the exclusive source for up to 1.5 billion punch cards the Reich required each year to run its machines.
http://www.ibmandtheholocaust.com/chapter1.php



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I still cannot bring myself to believe that this is going to actually happen in britain. I wonder where i stand personally. They talk about the 60 million britons who will get cards, and foreigners living there, but i'd reckon there must be millions of britons living abroad like myself. Will i need one? Will i be barred from entering my own country if i don't have one of these cards?

It won't be long before the state regulates our breathing patterns. There's not much left that they don't control. I've said it before, but i feel like going back to live in england again just so that i can re-emigrate. Ahh, freedom, that wonderful concept that we used to have before the state turned us all into puppets/muppets.

Surely there are not many more steps before orwell's 1984 becomes a reality? Certainly, with the cards in place, future laws designed to control the behaviour of the citizens will be very easy to enact and police. With those cards coming in, i really think freedom will be going in the opposite direction.

Fucking insane.
 
Prime Minister Gordon Brown's government argues ID cards, which will include fingerprint and iris scans, are necessary to crack down on benefit fraud and abuse of the National Health Service. The London School of Economics estimates the program will cost between 10.6 billion pounds and 19.3 billion pounds, more than double the government estimate of 5.3 billion pounds.

The Home Office said in July 2005 it was using at least 62 consultants costing an average of 1,093 a day to advise on the project.

ID cards will be issued to foreign nationals from 2008 and to British citizens beginning in 2009. About 6 million cards a year will be issued once the system was fully running, covering the U.K.'s 60 million residents in a decade.

The criteria used to claim that this is a necessity is the same criteria that requires the more extreme solution. The Revelation pegged this a long time ago. Ever seen Manchurian Candidate?
 
Backatcha Bandit said:
Nice to see IBM in there... With their years of experience, how can it fail?

On a (kinda) positive note, at least if IBM is one of the successful bidders, given their previous history it's a propaganda coup for anti-ID activists.
 
I already know who I am and if I think that I may forget I shall write it on a bit of paper. Should a bobby need to see it I may show it to him if I feel like it.

This will save the Government about 70 quid.
 
can we not just accept that there's always going to be a certain amount of low level benefit fraud & unauthorised nhs use and not spend £5+ billion on id cards that nobody wants.

fucking bollocks, is this really happening then:mad:
 
free spirit said:
fucking bollocks, is this really happening then:mad:

No, it can't be!

The ultimate arbiters of our reality the 'oh, so informative' BBC still haven't uttered a single fucking word about this.

Can you believe that? Not a fucking word!

OK, so the Home Office squeaked it out on a Friday afternoon, obviously hoping that no-one would notice, but that's no excuse.

chainsaw cat said:
I already know who I am and if I think that I may forget I shall write it on a bit of paper. Should a bobby need to see it I may show it to him if I feel like it.

This will save the Government about 70 quid.

I think you may have fallen for one of their Orwelllian linguistic bastardisations there. 'ID Cards' does not mean 'Identity Cards', despite the fact that it's what they're commonly referred to.

You 'identity' is is something intrinsic to you, not something that is predicated on a piece of plastic or 'issued' to you by the great and the good of Whitehall.

What they're selling is 'Identification Cards'. Subtle but crucial difference.

Welcome to the Gulag State.
 
if BAE are involved you may get a spiffy plastic bag to keep your sarnies in and some folders but as for it working no chance:D

bullets come in metal boxes then plastic zip loc bags with BAE's logo on then little paper boxes:rolleyes:
 
some civil servant will get some great nights out courtesy of BAE:D
(if your products were that shoddy you'd use bribery to sell them :rolleyes: )

now if bae could corner the market it small arms we'd have most of the world's conflicts sorted as most of the combatants would be holding a collection of broken bits of metal that had been a shiny new rifle 2 days ago :D
 
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