Ian Dury

[butchersapron]

There it is:

 

[chico enrico]

My favourite Dury song was always "if i was a woman" on NB+Ps.

well funky

 

[Louis MacNeice]

First Stiff tour...anything but pedestrian...they went by train. Dury played drums for Wreckless Eric, Larry Wallis strummed for Nick Lowe, and they all got together with a young Declan MacManus for Sex and Drugs and Rock and Roll!

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[MullahNasrudin]

Anyone that thinks Ian Dury is rubbish clearly doesn't have two brain cells to rub together. *LOLs at L.O.L.*

Altogether now...

"I'm from Essex in case you couldn't tell..."

 

[editor]

Genius:

Black gloves, white frost
Black crepe, white lead
White sheet, black knight
Jet black, dead white

Sweet Gene Vincent
There's one in every town
And the devil drives 'till the hearse arrives
And you lay that pistol down

Sweet Gene Vincent
There's nowhere left to hide
With lazy skin and ash-tray eyes
a perforated pride

So farewell mademoiselle, Knickerbocker Hotel
Farewell to money owed
But when your leg still hurts and you need more shirts
You got to get back on the road

 

[Maggot]

I read a good Biography of him once - said he was not such a nice fella really - huge ego and was brought up by two middle class irish sisters - he adopted Essex as his spiritual home. Could be called an early example of a mockney.

Takes nothing away from his music though - one of the first gigs i went to - Brixton academy with me dad circa 1990

I saw him at the academy aound that time too. Won tickets in a competition.



Yes, he definitely played down the middle class apsects of his background.

 

[foo]

My favourite Dury song was always "if i was a woman" on NB+Ps.

well funky

do you mean this?

If I Was With A Woman

If I was with a woman she'd wonder what was happening
Little things would slowly go askew
If I was with a woman I'd make her quite unhappy
Specially when she did not want me to

If I was with a woman I'd make believe I loved her
All the time I would not like her much
If I was with a woman she'd soon become unsettled
I'd show her but I would not let her touch

Look at them laughing
Look at them laughing
Look at them laughing
Laughing, laughing

If I was with a woman I'd never ask her questions
But if she did not want me to I would
If I was with a woman I'd offer my indifference
And make quite sure she never understood

If I was with a woman I'd threaten to unload her
Every time she asked me to explain
If I was with a woman she'd have to learn to cherish
The purity and depth of my disdain

Look at them laughing
Look at them laughing
Look at them laughing
Laughing, laughing

I've been with a woman, she took away my spirit
No woman's coming close to me again
I've been with a woman, she took away my spirit
No woman's coming close to me again

Look at them laughing
Look at them laughing
Look at them laughing
Laughing, laughing, laughing, laughing, laughing
Laughing, laughing, laughing, laughing, laughing...



and people called him a mysoginist.....*sigh*

 

[ViolentPanda]

I also hear he was a bit of a cock, especially to women.

To be fair, this was something he admitted to, to at least a couple of his biographers.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Oh, you do have. Oh you do, fanboy!

I have a storage unit floor to ceiling with Priest, Flag and Rollins stuff. *shrugs* What has that to do with an also-ran punk-new wave hanger on?

...whose musical direction pre-existed punk by half a decade.

Try again, with a bit more historical accuracy, please!

 

[lights.out.london]

To be fair, this was something he admitted to, to at least a couple of his biographers.

They weren't the kindest of biographers. I think his son was on R4 a while back. Must try and dig out the interview (does his son play with the Blockheads).

...whose musical direction pre-existed punk by half a decade.

Try again, with a bit more historical accuracy, please!

Punk helped Dury sell records. *shrugs* Not the other way around.

 

[danny la rouge]

I think he was great.

 

[lights.out.london]

He's very, very popular on this thread.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Referring to Judas Priest as simply "Priest" should be enough for a warning at least.

Could be worse, could be "the Priest" (or "ver Priest" as many fans seem to pronounce it).

 

[danny la rouge]

He's very, very popular on this thread.

Not, perhaps, surprising. On a number of levels.

 

[lights.out.london]

Not, perhaps, surprising. On a number of levels.

I know.

 

[chico enrico]

Yes, he definitely played down the middle class apsects of his background.

what?? a musician doing that? i've never heard of such an outrage?

 

[ViolentPanda]

They weren't the kindest of biographers.

A good biographer isn't meant to be kind. I believe the word used to describe "kind" biographies is "hagiography".

I think his son was on R4 a while back. Must try and dig out the interview (does his son play with the Blockheads).

Baxter.
Yep, does a few (usually benefit) gigs with the surviving Blockheads, plus recording and touring his own stuff.

Punk helped Dury sell records. *shrugs* Not the other way around.

Don't agree.
Lots of Ian Dury and the Blockheads fans of my age (mid forties) got into them because of the Kilburns, and while being signed to Stiff meant that his records got exposed to "new-wavers" (the first wave of punk having died off by then), it also meant his music got exposed to people into the NWOBHM via Motorhead, and back into the "pub rock" scene via Nick Lowe.

 

[lights.out.london]

I'm thinking about the 101-ers and the Clash...I have blinding headache at the mo, so any point I might have made... lol...

Take your point re hagiographies etc,.

 

[chico enrico]

Punk helped Dury sell records.

Yes. There is a degree of truth in that, but that is only because punk helped any musician who did not have traditional 'pop pin up' looks sell records. He had polio, Poly Styrene had braces. Neither would have exactly been prime candidates to fill fuckin' Leif Garrett or Stevie Nicks' shoes would they?

To use that as some sort of sleight on him is simply an absurdity.

 

[butchersapron]

Exactly, it's totlaly irrelavent.

 

[lights.out.london]

Leif Garrett...blimey....past/blast.

Not sure I agree with the rest, though.

 

[chico enrico]

Leif Garrett...blimey....past/blast.

Not sure I agree with the rest, though.

how can anyone possibly disagree? that is just a fact. you're just mnaking yourself look like a horse's arse not conceding that.

 

[Cheesypoof]

100% genius, on every level, especially lyrically

 

[rekil]

I think he was great and the only thing Priest have ever done (apart from living after midnight ) was inspire that Atom chap's Hats Off To Halford tune.

 

[nino_savatte]

Dury was a proper artist. A real decent bloke and great lyricist.

There Ain't Half Been Some Clever Bastards, now there's a tune!

 

[foo]

here ya go nino

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PPvRsLWlDXw

edit: oh bollocks. it's one of those made up vids.

 

[Cheesypoof]

here ya go nino

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PPvRsLWlDXw

he was sexy as hell in his prime too foo, I agree!

 

[foo]

...and in his decline too cheesler

edit: i will admit to being attracted to, and starting a thing with a bloke, because he looked something like Ian Dury. shallow? me?

 

[Cheesypoof]

...and in his decline too cheesler

edit: i will admit to being attracted to, and starting a thing with a bloke, because he looked something like Ian Dury. shallow? me?

yeh i mus say his sex appeal didnt diminish as he got older, as the jools holland appearances later on testified. And heres nothing shallow about fancying someone that reminds you of Ian Dury.

 

[imposs1904]

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